Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
+1 24. Juni 2014 21:43 skrev "Karl Heinz Marbaise" følgende: > Hi, > > We solved 13 issues: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa? > projectId=11211&version=16516 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D% > 20MCHANGELOG

[GitHub] maven-surefire pull request: Break tag to make stack traces format...

2014-06-26 Thread jeversmann
GitHub user jeversmann opened a pull request: https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/pull/41 Break tag to make stack traces formatted Breaks would make the stack traces appear properly formatted instead of a single long line of text. You can merge this pull request into a Git rep

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 06/26/14 17:18, schrieb Stephen Connolly: > And the staleness is another killer on the: "oh why don't we use DNS > records to resolve the repository" because what if foobar.org do not renew > their domain, now all the org.foobar artifacts will just drop off the net > and we have no means to inje

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi Martin, > Deprecating: As far as deprecating ..be mindful that Maven is used by over 100,000 shops for production builds Before anything gets trashed we need to keep release managers implementing previous maven installations satisfied. Are you talking about something in particular ? As i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1 Regards, Hervé Le mardi 24 juin 2014 21:43:17 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit : > Hi, > > We solved 13 issues: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11211&version=165 > 16 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > I dont know enough to make an intelligent comment on any of the deltas that > may have been fixed in changelog > > Deprecating: > As far as deprecating ..be mindful that Maven is used by over 100,000 shops > for production builds > Before

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Martin Gainty
I dont know enough to make an intelligent comment on any of the deltas that may have been fixed in changelog Deprecating: As far as deprecating ..be mindful that Maven is used by over 100,000 shops for production builds Before anything gets trashed we need to keep release managers implementing

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Changelog Plugin version 2.3

2014-06-26 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, anyone else? > On 6/26/14 1:38 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: +1 On 25 June 2014 05:43, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: Hi, We solved 13 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11211&version=16516 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org

Re: "supplies" concept proposal (was "provides" could be "proffers")

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 21 Jun 2014, at 0:51, Stephen Connolly wrote: "supplies" concept proposal I've not yet had a good read thru this thread yet, but I thought I'd point out the OSGi "requirements and capabilities" work that's going on with those specs, which is similar/related to a degree. http://blog.os

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 0:55, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > My main concern with current POM entries about repositories is that we are > hardcoding some information that may change in the future ( the repo moved, > sources moved ...). Thus depending for what you are looking at an old POM > it may be a probl

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:47, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: 2) Deploy transitive runtime dependencies along with your release ... or make sure they are centrally available. I think this is an (important) best practice since years: +1 - that might even be a good first step - and could even just be a plu

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:44, Michael Osipov wrote: let me rephrase your intention: you want to re-upload dependencies -- even if they are already in a repo?! Am I wrong? Essentially yes - as a means of enforcing that "everything required to actually compile or use my artefact is in a repository"

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 3:18, Stephen Connolly wrote: > I think dropping and using social pressure to "get thee to > central" is probably the best worst long term solution Best worst? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 2:18, Paul Benedict wrote: I agree with Jorg. Furthermore, I have found repositories addresses change overtime. I *don't* want this information in the POM either because it becomes stale. It's not really build information, per se, as it is Maven connection information. I hav

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Am Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:44:55 +0200 schrieb Michael Osipov : > Am 2014-06-26 21:41, schrieb Mark Derricutt: > > On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:27, Michael Osipov wrote: > > > >> 2) Deploy transitive runtime dependencies along with your release ... or make sure they are centrally available. I think this is a

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
Hi Jörg, On 27 Jun 2014, at 2:11, Jörg Schaible wrote: When maven is checking for a repository for an artefact, and using a mirror - if that artefact can't be found, maven should retry using the original repository directly with builds warnings. Very bad idea. Especially if the original rep

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-06-26 21:41, schrieb Mark Derricutt: On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:27, Michael Osipov wrote: 2) Deploy transitive runtime dependencies along with your release This beats DRY and reinvents the wheel. I would obstain doing either one. I don't see this as repeating oneself, just about populati

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:27, Michael Osipov wrote: 2) Deploy transitive runtime dependencies along with your release This beats DRY and reinvents the wheel. I would obstain doing either one. I don't see this as repeating oneself, just about populating a repository with required dependencies -

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 27 Jun 2014, at 7:27, Michael Osipov wrote: Not going to work if you are behing a MRM instance and proxied in a company like me. Given that is a settings.xml thing, thats purely your local maven installation - if we're talking about changing maven, that potentially could be up for change

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-06-26 14:34, schrieb Mark Derricutt: In last weeks dev hangout I raised the idea of removing elements due to some issues with them regarding mirrors etc which was somewhat negatively received, however I've been thinking about this a bit and came up with an interesting idea earlier in the

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
And the staleness is another killer on the: "oh why don't we use DNS records to resolve the repository" because what if foobar.org do not renew their domain, now all the org.foobar artifacts will just drop off the net and we have no means to inject a repo for them again... I think dropping and us

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.2

2014-06-26 Thread Paul Benedict
Okay, but let me explain how I got to that page :-) At the bottom of each of the version pages, there's a link to "all release notes". Go to the bottom of the 3.2.2 highlights (and other versions), and you'll see that. So that's a deadlink now and all these pages should be fixed. Cheers, Paul O

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Paul Benedict
I agree with Jorg. Furthermore, I have found repositories addresses change overtime. I *don't* want this information in the POM either because it becomes stale. It's not really build information, per se, as it is Maven connection information. I have to fallback to modifying my settings.xml when I e

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Mark, Mark Derricutt wrote: > In last weeks dev hangout I raised the idea of removing > elements due to some issues with them regarding mirrors etc which was > somewhat negatively received, however I've been thinking about this a > bit and came up with an interesting idea earlier in the night

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.2

2014-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
No, I removed that page and replaced it with a list of pointers to the release notes for a particular version. It should theoretically update shortly. On Jun 26, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Paul Benedict wrote: > The only other page needing updating is this. We need the list of jira > tickets for 3.2.2:

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.2

2014-06-26 Thread Paul Benedict
The only other page needing updating is this. We need the list of jira tickets for 3.2.2: http://maven.apache.org/release-notes-all.html Cheers, Paul On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > There, I checked in my solution which is to remove much of the redundant > information.

[GitHub] maven-wagon pull request: [WAGON-416] Correctly set proxyInfo in o...

2014-06-26 Thread grgrzybek
GitHub user grgrzybek opened a pull request: https://github.com/apache/maven-wagon/pull/11 [WAGON-416] Correctly set proxyInfo in other varian of wagon.connect() You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running: $ git pull https://github.com/grgrzybek/maven-wag

Re: POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Hi, On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Mark Derricutt wrote: > In last weeks dev hangout I raised the idea of removing > elements due to some issues with them regarding mirrors etc which was > somewhat negatively received, however I've been thinking about this a bit > and came up with an interes

POM 5.0 and Maven.next idea - re: 's

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
In last weeks dev hangout I raised the idea of removing elements due to some issues with them regarding mirrors etc which was somewhat negatively received, however I've been thinking about this a bit and came up with an interesting idea earlier in the night whilst at a gig. One of the proble

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.2

2014-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
There, I checked in my solution which is to remove much of the redundant information. There is also a large amount of duplication in the history document and the all releases document. The historical information can be combined with the complete release history document. On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:0

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven 3.2.2

2014-06-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
I, or someone else, can make something to aggregate all the notes. For the 3.1.1 release it was a cutting/pasting exercise which seems useless. We don't need a markup file and a text file where it's primarily cut/paste. I think enumerating the versions and pointing at the markup is sufficient. I

Re: Evolving the POM format

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
In the case of a multi module build - or any reactor build I think a valid rule would be all poms should be compatible with the maven version being used. Maybe even as far as to say the same version. Mind you - I'm also largely of the opinion that support for multi module should be deprecated/rem

Re: Evolving the POM format

2014-06-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
I'm not sure I like the idea deploying a resolved/effective parent POM - simply because a parent is essentially the same as an abstract class or a template: it can't be used on its own. It's only non-parents that get build, get profiles activated on etc. ... Sent on android On 20/06/2014 2:48 am,