Re: Fast or exact ?

2013-02-07 Thread Anders Hammar
In general, I think that the default value should be whatever works in most cases. Then we could have params for tweaking this (for better performance e.g. in specific cases), but it would be up to the user to do this. So, in this specific case, I think the default should be to recompress so that i

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jesse Glick wrote: > On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? >> > > The largest in this context would probably be: > > - annotation processors > I'm really vague on this, but wasn't there som

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Feb 7, 2013, at 19:28, Jesse Glick wrote: > On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? > > The largest in this context would probably be: > > - annotation processors > - script engine > - split bytecode verifier (thus quicker s

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Jesse Glick
On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? The largest in this context would probably be: - annotation processors - script engine - split bytecode verifier (thus quicker startup) Java 7 is a bigger bump (NIO.2, try-with-resources

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Hi Nigel. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Nigel Magnay wrote: > > > > > > I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am > > currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is > > nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just > b

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1000 Regards, Hervé Le jeudi 7 février 2013 11:46:52 Stephen Connolly a écrit : [...] > I am against moving up "just because". However I am all in favour of moving > up "because XYZ". > > For me invalid reasons to move to as a runtime requirement 1.6 are things > like: > > * I cannot get a 1.

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Hi Stephen, No, Java 1.6 is not available for AIX 5.3. It's support started as of 6.1. Nicely worded on the good reasons. The project that I'm working on now is upgrading everying, but even then, we're only targeting 1.6, as that is what WAS/WPS/APS V8 all run on. -Chris On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 a

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
Hello, I agree with Nigel here, those who need to use an outdated version of the JDK now have to use an outdated version of Maven as well. Testing stuff with different JDK versions is work as well. Stephen, I for one would love at least 1.6 for one single reason: having @Override at interfaces :-

Re: [VOTE] Maven Pmd Plugin 3.0 (take 2)

2013-02-07 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
+1 (non-binding) tested with two multi-module projects (no new features tested and I had no violations before anyway :-)). Regards Mirko On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to release Maven Pmd Plugin 3.0. > Note this version is based on PMD 5.0.2 (reason for th

Re: Fast or exact ?

2013-02-07 Thread Andreas Gudian
Ok, just read it - it /is/ an option. That's all I care about ;). Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Andreas Gudian : > I think I'd like to have the choice, i.e. I'd like an option for that. > > > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Kristian Rosenvold : > >> A lot of you seemed to have rea

Re: Fast or exact ?

2013-02-07 Thread Andreas Gudian
I think I'd like to have the choice, i.e. I'd like an option for that. Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Kristian Rosenvold : > A lot of you seemed to have realized that the latest version of war and > assembly have chosen the "fast" option over the "compact" option; and you > actually seem

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
So... Make it Java 7! Gary On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:12, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: > I must say i am rather luke-warm about *ever* making 1.6 minimum. The few > interesting things (functionally) that happened in 1.6 are well covered > with reflection, and I'd be tempted to just wait until we can do

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I must say i am rather luke-warm about *ever* making 1.6 minimum. The few interesting things (functionally) that happened in 1.6 are well covered with reflection, and I'd be tempted to just wait until we can do 1.7 base ;) As for being able to support multiple versions, I generally make different

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven Wagon 2.4

2013-02-07 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to release Wagon 2.4. > > We fixed 5 issues: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10335&version=18697 > > Staging repository: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-199/ >

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Nigel Magnay
> > > I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am > currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is > nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just been > extended* by a year! > > You know that Jenkins is looking like going Ja

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff MAURY
+1 on Stephen's reasons Jeff On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7 February 2013 08:58, Chris Graham wrote: > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > > > > > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 7 February 2013 08:58, Chris Graham wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > > > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : > >> > >> Hey All. > >> > >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. > >> > >> Whilst

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:00, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : >> >> Hey All. >> >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. >> >> Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny >> and new, > > Please. Can

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Mark Struberg" > To: "Maven Developers List" > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:23:39 AM > Subject: Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum > > > > What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? That's easy to answer for some people. There is no worki

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven Wagon 2.4

2013-02-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 I missed to say website available here: http://maven.apache.org/wagon-archives/wagon-LATEST/ 2013/2/5 Olivier Lamy : > Hi, > I'd like to release Wagon 2.4. > > We fixed 5 issues: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10335&version=18697 > > Staging repository: > https://

[VOTE] Maven Pmd Plugin 3.0 (take 2)

2013-02-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi, I'd like to release Maven Pmd Plugin 3.0. Note this version is based on PMD 5.0.2 (reason for the version bump). We fixed 18 issues: https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+MPMD+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%223.0%22+AND+status+%3D+Closed+ORDER+BY+priority+DES

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Sent from my iPhone On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : >> >> Hey All. >> >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. >> >> Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
2013/2/7 Stephen Connolly : > On Thursday, 7 February 2013, Nicolas Delsaux wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy > >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). >> > >> > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 20

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 7 February 2013, Nicolas Delsaux wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy > > wrote: > > Hi, > > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). > > > > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. > > > > Can we say we are safe to

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Nicolas Delsaux
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). > > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. > > Can we say we are safe to go to 1.6 as minimum required ? > Don't fully understand the question.

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : > > Hey All. > > Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. > > Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny > and new, Please. Can we stop using that kind of father-ish formulation? That's not