Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Jason van Zyl
I'll get it up on our Jenkins but here's a run that shows it passes: http://ci.tesla.io:8080/job/maven-its-logback/jdk=jdk-1.6/20/ On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > On 17 December 2012 17:28, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> 2012/12/17 Stephen Connolly : >>> Now the above could

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Jason van Zyl
Yup, the logback stuff all passes. The grid has been a bit wonky but I'll put a job up there. On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > On 17 December 2012 17:28, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> 2012/12/17 Stephen Connolly : >>> Now the above could be fixed... but *somebody* needs to

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Benson Margulies
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > And what about working on real improvements for users ? I don't follow. I sent an email that attempts to bring this debate to a close so that, in fact, we can get a release out and get on with other projects, of which all of the below are goo

Dependency plugin chaos was Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Which, from my point of view, proves our failure. A user should never have to use maven in debug to understand its project dependencies. dependency:tree, list, analyze should be our first calls mojo to help users to sanitize their dependencies and to better understand the how maven is doing the res

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Derricutt
Personally I find "-X dependency:tree" -way- more useful. Half the time when I'm trying to track down dependency problems maven itself fails to fully resolve dependencies and crashes out the mojo without displaying anything useful, so you end up looking though the debug information to find whi

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Maven Release Plugin version 2.4

2012-12-17 Thread Robert Scholte
Hi, The vote has passed with the following result : +1 (binding): Olivier Lamy, Robert Scholte, Hervé BOUTEMY +1 (non binding): Mirko Friedenhagen, Tony Chemit I will promote the artifacts to the central repo. thanks, Robert Op Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:48:24 +0100 schreef Robert Scholte : Hi

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 17 December 2012 17:28, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/17 Stephen Connolly : > > Now the above could be fixed... but *somebody* needs to write some code > to > > make them fixed. In the absence of anyone writing such code and > committing > > it, those branches are dead... as are those choices.

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Olivier Lamy
2012/12/17 Stephen Connolly : > On 17 December 2012 15:07, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> Sorry Stephen, I find this comparison unfair. >> > > > Mark, here is my point. > > To move forward on the logging over slf4j plan (A plan you are against, and > I have not seen any one else support your cause) we

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 17 December 2012 15:07, Mark Struberg wrote: > Sorry Stephen, I find this comparison unfair. > Mark, here is my point. To move forward on the logging over slf4j plan (A plan you are against, and I have not seen any one else support your cause) we need to pick an implementation. Initially J

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Struberg
Sorry Stephen, I find this comparison unfair. Please look how much code has been written and is necessary to get slf4j (and any other non MojoLogger impl) really running. And for making it fully work it will need even more work because we first need to ship all plugins with an upgraded maven-pl

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 17 December 2012 14:46, Olivier Lamy wrote: > And what about working on real improvements for users ? > > I see: > * incremental build > * fixing various bugs on dependency plugin (tree doesn't work well > since aether: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MDEP-392) or this very > old one (https://

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+100 i really think "maven is bad" sentences we sometimes hear doesn't reference the logging at all so probably not something where time should be lost Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github:

Re: Logging

2012-12-17 Thread Olivier Lamy
And what about working on real improvements for users ? I see: * incremental build * fixing various bugs on dependency plugin (tree doesn't work well since aether: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MDEP-392) or this very old one (https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MDEP-187) which have 50 votes. And IM