Re: Re: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Struberg
why is the linux shell not merged into one but instead are ls and tree and stuff separate programs? The answer is: separation of concerns! Why should we throw this together and thus create a big bunch of unmaintainable code? LieGrue, strub --- On Thu, 6/30/11, jameslordhz wrote: > From: jam

Re: Re: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread jameslordhz
after i use mvn eclipse:eclipse, eleven eclipse projects are generated for maven 3, that is [maven-aether-provider] [maven-artifact][maven-compat] [maven-core][maven-embedder] [maven-model] [maven-model-builder] [maven-plugin-api]

Re: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Sorry, did not noticed the OOM in the logs! Bot restarted, try again please... Thanks, ~t~ On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > >> make ¢? > > No.  Where did that list come from? --

Re: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > make ¢? No. Where did that list come from? I thought maybe the OP was asking about the many modules in the Maven source code: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-3/trunk/ -- Wendy --

Re: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread Benson Margulies
What are you two talking about. In what respect is Maven 3 divided into this set of eclipse projects? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > > these are the eclipse (sub)projects i have thus far: >          apache >          cdt >          core >          equinox >          jdt >

Re: peri

2011-06-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
yes i forgot about endorsed... it is definitely required... complicates plugins that run in the same jvm though... eg jetty, surefire in no fork mode, etc - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using s

Re: peri

2011-06-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
true should get you the non-transitive. hard to digest the rest of your post with my son pulling out of me ;-) - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On 29 Jun 2011 1

RE: why Maven 3 is divided into eleven eclipse project?

2011-06-29 Thread Martin Gainty
these are the eclipse (sub)projects i have thus far: apache cdt core equinox jdt text wst if my base eclipse version is 3.7 (for eclipse version 3.7) and if i implement a new algorithm for EditText or UndoText I would refactor

Re: peri

2011-06-29 Thread Jesse Glick
On 06/27/2011 06:54 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: Critically missing from my PoV are: Consider also 'endorsed' (a serious issue for EE projects especially): http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4752 Also some notes on a non-transitive compile scope: for NetBeans module development, module -> mod

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Nigel Magnay
I'm not sure the HTML analogy flies (in particular, I'm not convinced that, say, schema.org isn't just re-invention of namespaces or RDFa via another mechanism). I have no argument that XML namespaces are somewhat klunky, but they are at least standardised and have well understood transformations

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm opposed to namespaces for two reasons. One is a global reason, the other applies only to 'core' configuration. The global reason: read all the very cogent writing from the HTML5 process as to why they have run screaming away from namespaces. The more local reason: Consider what started this d

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Nigel Magnay
> > > > If tools validate against the schema, they know when a POM is, in > fact, valid for its declared model. Thus, any elements that the tool > does not recognize are proved to be 'messengers from the future'. > > It would help enormously if 'messengers from the future' used an appropriate XML n

Re: Maven 3 and updateReleaseInfo=false

2011-06-29 Thread Benson Margulies
I think that you should create a JIRA. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Henika Tekwani wrote: > Hi All, > > I am trying to deploy an artifact using maven 3 but I don't want to update > the RELEASE tag in the maven-metadata.xml. I am using > "maven-deploy-plugin:2.6:deploy-file" and while callin

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Benson Margulies
>> >> Telling people to edit and maintain two poms is also likely to lead to >> widespread derision. >> >> Here's another thought experiment in design. This may merely be me >> recapitulating Steven's idea. Say that for Maven 3.1 we wanted to fix >> this issue once and for all. So, we make maven 3.

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 29 June 2011 12:20, Benson Margulies wrote: > If they update to new versions of the thing with the pom. At least for > polemic purposes, imagining a world in which the decision to make use > of a new pom feature has the effect of forcing these sticks-in-the-mud > to stick to old versions. > > L

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-29 Thread Benson Margulies
If they update to new versions of the thing with the pom. At least for polemic purposes, imagining a world in which the decision to make use of a new pom feature has the effect of forcing these sticks-in-the-mud to stick to old versions. Let me be more specific about why I don't like the alternati

Maven 3 and updateReleaseInfo=false

2011-06-29 Thread Henika Tekwani
Hi All, I am trying to deploy an artifact using maven 3 but I don't want to update the RELEASE tag in the maven-metadata.xml. I am using "maven-deploy-plugin:2.6:deploy-file" and while calling the deploy command I am setting -DupdateReleaseInfo=false. Still the RELEASE tag in metadata is gettin