Re: Good JarDiff/Clirr Setup

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/09/2007, at 10:52 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: I want to take the aggregate uber jar in 2.0.x and start comparing it with with the uber jar for 2.1.x. Anyone have a preference for JarDiff or Clirr and have a good setup for it? I've been happy with clirr when I've used it, and the check

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:43 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: On 08/09/2007, at 10:37 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different s

Good JarDiff/Clirr Setup

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
I want to take the aggregate uber jar in 2.0.x and start comparing it with with the uber jar for 2.1.x. Anyone have a preference for JarDiff or Clirr and have a good setup for it? I would like to set this up to catch anything. I can be rather radical in refactoring but I think that's fine

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Brian E. Fox wrote: I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. For deploying or actually pulling? Deploying is a totally different story. I know tons of people who use file, dav, scp, and ftp. Strictly for pulling I'm saying. And I'

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/09/2007, at 10:37 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different story. I use the wagon-scm stuff for audit trail and dep

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different story. I use the wagon-scm stuff for audit trail and deploy there. I'm talking strictly about pulling. I'd

Re: 2.1 refactoring and plugins

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:03 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: On 08/09/2007, at 12:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: Just curious - will there be any issues with these APIs changing for plugins that may have come to rely on it, or are these all

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
I think it's also a reasonable goal to allow people to use projects that refer to embedded remote repositories to build...that way, the build is totally self-contained. This is one of the things that the assembly plugin tries to do with its section (though it doesn't work very well so far.

RE: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. The use case was that we had to mirror our internal repo to another corp network. We essentially zipped up the repo and transferred it to their machine (regularly and automatically via scm), which set a mirror entry pointing to the

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). I'd be hesitant to remove this without doing some decent polling of users (and probably a deprecation cycle). - Brett On 08/09/2007, at 8:55 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: After thinking about Greg's co

Re: why not more releases of maven plugins ?

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
Also, I'm not prepared to release 2.3.1 until the things that have regressed since previous releases are fixed. I keep working on it when I have spare time - others are welcome and we just got a new volunteer last week... On 08/09/2007, at 2:06 AM, Carlos Sanchez wrote: the changelog is e

Re: Dependencies in maven-jar-plugin

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
If it works with 2.0.7, I think that's ok. On 07/09/2007, at 8:59 PM, Johan Kindgren wrote: Hi I've fixed the mjar-30 and possibly the mjar-80 (by accident), and while I was at it I created a couple of integrationtests using the maven-embedder. I could not get the embedder to run without upgra

Re: 2.1 refactoring and plugins

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
urg, sorry. I see you already started a separate thread on this. Please ignore me. On 08/09/2007, at 10:03 AM, Brett Porter wrote: On 08/09/2007, at 12:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: Just curious - will there be any issues with these AP

Re: 2.1 refactoring and plugins

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/09/2007, at 12:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: Just curious - will there be any issues with these APIs changing for plugins that may have come to rely on it, or are these all purely internal? (I haven't had a chance to dig through t

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Maven Embedder

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/09/2007, at 12:25 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: I guess you're out for the night now... anyway, until we get the direct nag happening I'll just pass it on :) I just checked again, no changes for me locally, bootstrapped again and

Working on 2.1 over the weekend

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
If anyone else is going to be working on 2.1 over the weekend then I will work on a branch, otherwise I will continue tracking down the release plugin problem, starting the error reporting based on feedback of what can go wrong, and documenting the front-end populating of the execution requ

RE: [vote] Mauro Talevi committer access

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
Results: +12 Brian, Stephane, Emmanuel, Vincent, Fabrice, Maria, Raphael, Lukas, Olivier, Jason vZ, Arnaud, Brett This vote has passed. Jason, since Mauro is already an Apache committer, I believe only granting of Karma is required. Please join me in welcoming Mauro! --Brian -Original Messag

RE: [vote] bring shade-maven-plugin to apache

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
Results: +7 (Binding) Brian, Jason, Brett, Stephane, Lukas, Dennis, Arnaud +2 (Non Binding) Rafale, Andy, This vote has passed. I will wrap up the move most likely over the weekend. It will first go to the sandbox where we will perform the refactoring of packages and to include apache headers. Si

Re: 2.1 execution of plugins

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 3:46 PM 7 Sep 07, John Casey wrote: Hell, I'd settle for being able to bootstrap at all. It's really not cool to respond that CI is broken and not respond at all to someone saying the build breaks on their machine I have 4 machines going, I'm not trying to intentionally bre

Re: The importance of working in branches

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
I thought we'd all agreed to use branches as a measure for preserving stability in the trunk as much as was reasonable. This was awhile back, but I'm sure I can find that thread if I need to. FWIW, major refactorings are no different from new features in my book, and if the tables had been

Re: The importance of working in branches

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 3:52 PM 7 Sep 07, John Casey wrote: I thought we'd agreed awhile back to do this, but apparently that's not the case. For big features sure. I wasn't adding any new features. I'm getting rid of the ton of crap lying around to prepare for more people being able to unders

Re: Duplicate artifactId name

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 3:48 PM 7 Sep 07, Vincent Siveton wrote: Hi, I noticed that we have two artifactId with the same name, ie doxia- site: * doxia/doxia-sitetools/trunk/pom.xml [1] * doxia/site/pom.xml [2] I proposed to rename the first one in doxia-sitetools. WDYT? +1 Cheers, Vincent

Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
After thinking about Greg's comments I think it would be interesting to ask people who actually uses anything but HTTP repositories for consumption? Deployment is a totally different story, but to radically simplify the core what if we only allowed HTTP repositories for consumption in 2.1

The importance of working in branches

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
I thought we'd agreed awhile back to do this, but apparently that's not the case. When I updated from Subversion today, I got a nasty surprise. Lo and behold, it would not bootstrap! I didn't find much discussion on the dev list about a massive reorganization (none, in fact), and the numb

Duplicate artifactId name

2007-09-07 Thread Vincent Siveton
Hi, I noticed that we have two artifactId with the same name, ie doxia-site: * doxia/doxia-sitetools/trunk/pom.xml [1] * doxia/site/pom.xml [2] I proposed to rename the first one in doxia-sitetools. WDYT? Cheers, Vincent [1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/trunk/pom

Re: 2.1 execution of plugins

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
Hell, I'd settle for being able to bootstrap at all. It's really not cool to respond that CI is broken and not respond at all to someone saying the build breaks on their machine...without even taking more time trying to replicate their results. This has put a HUGE crimp in my own plans for

Re: Classpath ordering of dependencies

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 2:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Paul Gier wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 9:43 AM 7 Sep 07, Paul Gier wrote: Hi Everyone, I noticed that transitive dependencies seem to precede direct dependencies on the test classpath. I created this issue related to this: http://jira.c

Re: Classpath ordering of dependencies

2007-09-07 Thread Paul Gier
Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 9:43 AM 7 Sep 07, Paul Gier wrote: Hi Everyone, I noticed that transitive dependencies seem to precede direct dependencies on the test classpath. I created this issue related to this: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3197 Is this behaviour by desi

Re: svn commit: r573699 - in /maven/core-integration-testing/trunk: ./ core-integration-testing-plugins/ core-integration-testing-plugins/maven-it-plugin-context-passing/ core-integration-testing-plug

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 1:58 PM 7 Sep 07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: jdcasey Date: Fri Sep 7 13:58:21 2007 New Revision: 573699 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=573699&view=rev Log: Fixing core-it-plugins so they won't bomb on surefire:test with NPE if there is nothing under src/test/jav

2.1 execution of plugins

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
I started testing many of our standard plugins and we have more then a few problems. So don't be alarmed if you bootstrap and try to run things like the release plugin, or the site plugin because they won't work. I'm making a compatibility layer and tracking down problems this weekend to st

Re: Lining up maven-artifact for a release

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
Mark, can you merge your changes into the trunk of maven-artifact? I'm willing to try them out with 2.1.x. If we can work in tandem there to validate and test that would be great. Thanks for taking the time to test 2.0.x. I really, really hope we can get this to work as it means that people

Re: Classpath ordering of dependencies

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 9:43 AM 7 Sep 07, Paul Gier wrote: Hi Everyone, I noticed that transitive dependencies seem to precede direct dependencies on the test classpath. I created this issue related to this: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3197 Is this behaviour by design? No. This is no

Re: Using alternate pom files

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 9:31 AM 7 Sep 07, Paul Gier wrote: I submitted a small patch for this issue: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3150 The basic idea of it is to be able to use alternate pom.xml files in a multi-module project. Can someone with commit access take a look at this? It would

Using alternate pom files

2007-09-07 Thread Paul Gier
I submitted a small patch for this issue: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3150 The basic idea of it is to be able to use alternate pom.xml files in a multi-module project. Can someone with commit access take a look at this? It would really help with some of our projects if this can be add

Classpath ordering of dependencies

2007-09-07 Thread Paul Gier
Hi Everyone, I noticed that transitive dependencies seem to precede direct dependencies on the test classpath. I created this issue related to this: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3197 Is this behaviour by design? In the current maven, this means that if there is an older version of o

Re: why not more releases of maven plugins ?

2007-09-07 Thread Carlos Sanchez
the changelog is easy to see in jira ie http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel it's not a problem of tracking the changes but to say out loud "hey, release the plugin!" On 9/7/07, nicolas de loof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If yo

Re: why not more releases of maven plugins ?

2007-09-07 Thread nicolas de loof
> If you have ideas on how we can do this better, we're all ears. I've noticed from the hudson way (but maybe this is the wrong way) that they put a release when 2 or 3 bugs have been fixed. As maven provides SNAPSHOT support this seems not required to release a plugin to allow users to get the

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
Ok, I'll prepare to release this on Monday and then we will have all release goodies in the set of goods required for ITs. But I'll go check and see if anything else needs to be released. On 6 Sep 07, at 11:17 PM 6 Sep 07, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I would like to release the maven-verifier

RE: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
+1 -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:17 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1 Hi, I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of Maven's integration tests and would

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Maven Embedder

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: I guess you're out for the night now... anyway, until we get the direct nag happening I'll just pass it on :) I just checked again, no changes for me locally, bootstrapped again and ran the ITs and it's all fine so we have a discrepan

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Andrew Williams
+1 On 7 Sep 2007, at 07:17, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot in order to prepare for the 2.1-alpha-1. The staging area is here: http://people.apache.org/~jvanzy

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
+1 -john On Sep 7, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot in order to prepare for the 2.1-alpha-1. The staging area is here: http://people.apache.o

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Maven Embedder

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: Just curious - will there be any issues with these APIs changing for plugins that may have come to rely on it, or are these all purely internal? (I haven't had a chance to dig through the changes yet). We must absolutely guarantee

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Maven Embedder

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
I will setup Hudson on a Contegix machine and we'll have two automated opinions. On 7 Sep 07, at 2:19 AM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: I guess you're out for the night now... anyway, until we get the direct nag happening I'll just pass it on :) (yes, same problem in my checkout as on conti

Re: svn propchange: r573485 - svn:log

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 12:02 AM 7 Sep 07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: brett Revision: 573485 Modified property: svn:log Modified: svn:log at Fri Sep 7 00:02:24 2007 -- --- svn:log (original) +++ svn:log Fri Sep 7 00

Re: Lining up maven-artifact for a release

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 6:39 AM 7 Sep 07, Mark Hobson wrote: On 07/09/2007, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I started trying to get 2.0.x to use maven-artifact 3.0-SNAPSHOT. It doesn't seem too bad - no compilation problems - currently just a linking issue to resolve before the IT tests should

Re: [PROPOSAL] toolchains

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 2:36 AM 7 Sep 07, Milos Kleint wrote: can I assume this proposal is ok with everyone and start some initial work on it? The plan was that we collect all the proposals, and give people until next friday. Then we decide what will be done and in what release. If you want to

Re: What can possibly go wrong with Maven

2007-09-07 Thread Mark Hobson
On 05/09/2007, Jörg Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean something like this? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/Codehaus/pico/java-2.x/nano/container-bsh $ mvn > info:deps-runtime > [INFO] Scanning for projects... > [INFO] Searching repository for plugin with prefix: 'info'. > WAGON_VERSION: 1.

Re: Lining up maven-artifact for a release

2007-09-07 Thread Mark Hobson
On 07/09/2007, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started trying to get 2.0.x to use maven-artifact 3.0-SNAPSHOT. It > doesn't seem too bad - no compilation problems - currently just a > linking issue to resolve before the IT tests should hopefully pass. The linking issue was due to maven

Re: 1.0-alpha-9 release checklist

2007-09-07 Thread Lukas Theussl
Vincent Siveton wrote: Hi, Mainly for Dennis who kindly suggests to do the release, here are some doc issues: * publish the site decoration descriptor XSD and the associated doc. Actually, it is decoration-1.0.0.xsd but I would prefer to name it decoration-1.0.0-alpha-9.xsd. WDYT? Moreover, w

RE: [proposal] "Make like" reactor build mode

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
Heh, when I first read it, I thought you took the proposal and made a jira until I saw the date ;-) Freaky. -Original Message- From: Kenney Westerhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:12 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [proposal] "Make like" reactor

Dependencies in maven-jar-plugin

2007-09-07 Thread Johan Kindgren
Hi I've fixed the mjar-30 and possibly the mjar-80 (by accident), and while I was at it I created a couple of integrationtests using the maven-embedder. I could not get the embedder to run without upgrading the some dependencies (like maven-core and the maven-artifact), do you have any general pol

Re: Lining up maven-artifact for a release

2007-09-07 Thread Mark Hobson
On 04/09/2007, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4 Sep 07, at 8:37 AM 4 Sep 07, Mark Hobson wrote: > > I haven't had time to test it out in 2.1.x, although that FIXME needs > > fixing first as detailed in the issue. When are you thinking of > > releasing maven-artifact? Could be worth

Re: [PROPOSAL] toolchains

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
Yeah, go for it - lazy consensus :) I actually started to flip through this the other day - I'll take another look. I also started marking JIRA issues that might be related with [toolchain]. - Brett On 07/09/2007, at 7:36 PM, Milos Kleint wrote: can I assume this proposal is ok with ever

Re: [PROPOSAL] toolchains

2007-09-07 Thread Milos Kleint
can I assume this proposal is ok with everyone and start some initial work on it? Milos On 9/2/07, Milos Kleint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > See: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Toolchains > > Text included below for inline comments (which I'll feed back into > the document as n

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Maven Embedder

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
I guess you're out for the night now... anyway, until we get the direct nag happening I'll just pass it on :) (yes, same problem in my checkout as on continuum - it's doing it's job just fine) Just curious - will there be any issues with these APIs changing for plugins that may have come

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Insitu
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6 Sep 07, at 11:46 PM 6 Sep 07, Insitu wrote: > >> Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of >>> Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Stephane Nicoll
+1 Stéphane On 9/7/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of > Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot > in order to prepare for the 2.1-alpha-1. > > The staging area is here: > > http://peo

Re: head element in site.xml?

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
Yes :) Though it's probably a bit dodgy as is. It really is XHTML specific - you probably want some more general way to include in there. The JavaScript is for Google Analytics (which btw, seems to have broken with a recent site deploy... traffic halved suddenly 2 weeks ago) - Brett On 0

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 Sep 07, at 11:46 PM 6 Sep 07, Insitu wrote: Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot in order to prepare for the 2.1-alpha-1. The staging area is

Re: [vote] release maven-verifier 1.1

2007-09-07 Thread Insitu
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I would like to release the maven-verifier as it's used as part of > Maven's integration tests and would like to stop using the snapshot > in order to prepare for the 2.1-alpha-1. > > The staging area is here: > > http://people.apache.org/~jvanzy