Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, at 14:20, Gary Gregory wrote: > Hi. My view is do nothing until we get a new official logo. You don't want > to create any branding confusion IMO. There is no confusion by removing a feather. Come on, seriously not. One of the feathers is stands alone. It feels like „I don

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, at 13:39, Gary Gregory wrote: > Don't create and use a new Apache logo without Apache marketing involved > (or whichever part of Aapche is doing this). > We didn’t involve marketing before. Why skittle we involve anyone by just removing the feather from the main site? This

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, at 08:23, Ralph Goers wrote: > What am I missing here? In looking at all the project sites none of > our logos have a feather in them. Once the ASF provides a replacement > logo we can simply replace it. I am talking about the feathers on the front page. Not necessary th

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, at 21:58, Gary Gregory wrote: > I find it peculiar that ALL feathers are now illegal. What about the > feather of a Phoenix? I am very tired of this kind of discussion. Feathers combined with our name are of course always problematic. Everything else is pedantic. There w

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi. My view is do nothing until we get a new official logo. You don't want to create any branding confusion IMO. Gary On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 8:00 AM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Gary, > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 13:41, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > Don't create and use a new Apache logo without Ap

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-23 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Gary, On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 13:41, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Don't create and use a new Apache logo without Apache marketing involved > (or whichever part of Aapche is doing this). Sorry, I meant Apache Logging Services logo. Piotr

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Don't create and use a new Apache logo without Apache marketing involved (or whichever part of Aapche is doing this). Gary On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 4:01 AM Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 08:25, Ralph Goers > wrote: > > > > What am I missing here? In looking at all

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-23 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Ralph, On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 08:25, Ralph Goers wrote: > > What am I missing here? In looking at all the project sites none of our > logos have a feather in them. Once the ASF provides a replacement logo we can > simply replace it. The "Logging Services" image has a feather: https://loggi

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-22 Thread Ralph Goers
What am I missing here? In looking at all the project sites none of our logos have a feather in them. Once the ASF provides a replacement logo we can simply replace it. Why are we talking about new logos? FWIW none of our projects existed in the 1980s so I don’t know where that comment came fr

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-22 Thread Gary Gregory
I find it peculiar that ALL feathers are now illegal. What about the feather of a Phoenix? On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers. > As I was involved in the branding process, I am confident we can remove > th

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers. As I was involved in the branding process, I am confident we can remove them. We can update the 1980-style logo after the ASF logo was voted on. Until then, we will be compliant almost immediately by dropping the feathers. I did

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Btw, here is a more official blog post on this change: https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, at 21:32, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I am only asking to remove native american imagery as the feathers. > As I was involved in the branding process, I am

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-22 Thread Matt Sicker
We can make the interim logo the 🪵 (log emoji), possibly with four J’s next to it, until the new ASF logo is available. Speaking of logos, it may be a good time to design an updated logo for the project anyways. > On Jul 19, 2024, at 13:14, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hello, > > following

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-20 Thread Gary Gregory
That sounds good. I'm not doing the work here but I would imagine that if I did I'd only want to do it once ;-) For my time, I'd either strip the images and call it done, or wait for new images. Gary On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 1:45 AM Dominik Psenner wrote: > The blog post mentions the 7 oct 2024 a

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-19 Thread Dominik Psenner
The blog post mentions the 7 oct 2024 as the deadline to be compliant. This coincides with the day when the new marketing guidelines are unveiled. It is probably impossible to implement this within hours. Therefore I propose to ask Marketing for assistance/guiding/new marketing material right now i

Re: Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-19 Thread Gary Gregory
I think this is a bad idea because it is putting the cart before the horse as we say in English. Let Apache come up with our new branding and then use that. It seems all feathers of any kind are not allowed? Gary On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 2:15 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > following th

Updating the Logging Services Logo

2024-07-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, following this blog post: https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand I would like to propose to remove all feathers as here: https://logging.apache.org/ https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/images/ls-logo.jpg And all sub-websites with simlar images. I would like to m