Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-06-18 Thread Matt Sicker
t; I do have a task to upgrade Flume as well as add a fix for a problem that was > reported. As you know we use Flume at my work and it needs to be upgraded. So > I will be jumping back on this in the next couple of months. > > I don’t work on Chainsaw and never have. I don’t know

Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-06-17 Thread Ralph Goers
nged for the other log4j projects. > > I do have a task to upgrade Flume as well as add a fix for a problem that was > reported. As you know we use Flume at my work and it needs to be upgraded. So > I will be jumping back on this in the next couple of months. > > I don’t work on

Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-06-17 Thread Ralph Goers
on Chainsaw and never have. I don’t know of anyone who plans to do any work on it so I do not object to archiving chainsaw. I do have to apologize. While I try to follow the dev l& pmc lists I have had a terrible time following the email generated by GitHub. I currently have almost 10

Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-06-16 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
t; -1 on Flume > > Despite you not seeing visible evidence I am still working on these. I am > actually fairly confident I will need to create releases of Flume in the > next 6 months. > > Ralph > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 2:05 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > > >

Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-01-15 Thread Ralph Goers
-1 on Flume Despite you not seeing visible evidence I am still working on these. I am actually fairly confident I will need to create releases of Flume in the next 6 months. Ralph > On Jan 15, 2025, at 2:05 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Chainsaw and Flume projects have been moved t

Re: Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-01-15 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Volkan, On 15.01.2025 10:03, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: *I suggest archiving¹ `logging-chainsaw` and `logging-flume*` GitHub repositories. Objections?* +1 Could you also archive/remove the `2.3.x` and `2.12.x` web pages. As recent questions show, these are still used. Piotr

Archiving Chainsaw and Flume GitHub repositories

2025-01-15 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Chainsaw and Flume projects have been moved to dormant state with PMC consensus. Yet their GitHub repositories (i.e., `logging-chainsaw` and `logging-flume*`) don't reflect this and they weekly get flagged by GitHub due to vulnerable dependencies. This is also confusing for users, since the

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-03-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I have moved Chainsaw to the dormant section on the main website: https://logging.apache.org/ There is a label missing on the CS website itself, but I will have similar work in future, so I am going to do it together with that On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, at 09:56, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >

[RESULT][VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Chainsaw to dormant Date: Monday, February 12, 2024 22:31 Hello, This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do that work. To reflect this situation to the user, it is better to move Chains

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-14 Thread Carter Kozak
+1 Thanks! -ck On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, at 16:31, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work > to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do > that work. To reflect this situation to the

Re: Move Chainsaw to dormant: Q

2024-02-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, at 05:09, Tim Perry wrote: > Do dormant projects clearly indicate they can be re-animated by a > sufficient number of active committers? In the case of Chainsaw and Log4php, I don't see any issues with it, and if people are willing to maintain it (not only short

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-13 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
+1 On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:32 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much > work to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to > do that work. To reflect this situation

Move Chainsaw to dormant: Q

2024-02-12 Thread Tim Perry
Do dormant projects clearly indicate they can be re-animated by a sufficient number of active committers? Thanks, Tim

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-12 Thread Gary Gregory
+1 Gary On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:32 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hello, > > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work > to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do > that work. To reflect this

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-12 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
+1 Piotr On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 at 22:32, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hello, > > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work > to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do > that work. To reflect this

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-12 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 Ralph > On Feb 12, 2024, at 2:31 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hello, > > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work > to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do > that work. To reflect

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-12 Thread Scott Deboy
+1 Thanks Christian Scott On 2/12/24, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work > to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do > that work. To reflect this sit

[VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant

2024-02-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, This vote is to put Chainsaw to the "Dormant" components. There is much work to be done on this component, but not enough hours can be committed to do that work. To reflect this situation to the user, it is better to move Chainsaw to the dormant section and communicate it as

Re: [chainsaw] Status change?

2024-02-07 Thread Ralph Goers
gt;> >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 5:19 AM Scott Deboy wrote: >> >>> Thank you for spending time working on it Christian. >>> >>> I started contributing to Chainsaw in 2003. I agree. It's time. >>> >>> The primary benefit of

Re: [chainsaw] Status change?

2024-02-07 Thread Robert Middleton
ne.html> > to achieve that. > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 5:19 AM Scott Deboy wrote: > > > Thank you for spending time working on it Christian. > > > > I started contributing to Chainsaw in 2003. I agree. It's time. > > > > The primary benefit

Re: [chainsaw] Status change?

2024-02-06 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
ide/en/logstash/current/advanced-pipeline.html> to achieve that. On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 5:19 AM Scott Deboy wrote: > Thank you for spending time working on it Christian. > > I started contributing to Chainsaw in 2003. I agree. It's time. > > The primary benefit of Chainsa

Re: [chainsaw] Status change?

2024-02-06 Thread Scott Deboy
Thank you for spending time working on it Christian. I started contributing to Chainsaw in 2003. I agree. It's time. The primary benefit of Chainsaw was its built-in support for real-time tailing of ssh-accessible pattern-layout based logs - something Kibana doesn't support well, and

[chainsaw] Status change?

2024-02-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello we have had Chainsaw for a long time in our product list, and I can totally see that some - myself included - are emotionally attached to it. However, due to my work on it, I have given it some additional thought. After working with the Chainsaw code base for a while, I saw that many

Re: [chainsaw] Question: oading/writing settings of ChainsawTabbedPane

2023-12-02 Thread Scott Deboy
sion event routing mechanism and the ability to hide and show columns. Scott On 12/2/23, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi, > > I re-added the load/write feature in ChainsawTabbedPane using JSON and > Genson: > https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/blob/master/src/main/java/

[chainsaw] Question: oading/writing settings of ChainsawTabbedPane

2023-12-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I re-added the load/write feature in ChainsawTabbedPane using JSON and Genson: https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/blob/master/src/main/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw/components/tabbedpane/ChainsawTabbedPane.java#L126-L191 If it works, I will refactor it further so we can reuse the

Re: [chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thank you Scott, It is very encouraging you are joining this effort! Now I feel more confident we can make a new release! I am doing my best to learn more about Chainsaw and contribute further! On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, at 20:13, Scott Deboy wrote: > I'll go through the UI and re-add small

Re: [chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-29 Thread Scott Deboy
drag), and I've added VFSLogFilePatternReceiver support and it works > fine. > > To test VFSLogFilePatternReceiver: > * Start Chainsaw > * View, Show Receivers menu > * Hit the 'create' icon in the receivers pane > * Select 'New VFSLogFilePatternReceiver' &g

Re: [chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-28 Thread Scott Deboy
I've fixed the logger tree split pane UI (left artifacts when you drag), and I've added VFSLogFilePatternReceiver support and it works fine. To test VFSLogFilePatternReceiver: * Start Chainsaw * View, Show Receivers menu * Hit the 'create' icon in the receiver

Re: [chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Scott, I believe you; thanks for speaking up and being around. How can I help? I think Chainsaw needs to see a release soon, so what can I do to help you? I am glad to clean up things and whatever is necessary. Kind regards, Christian On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, at 00:15, Scott Deboy wrote: >

Re: [chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-28 Thread Scott Deboy
I have dropped the ball here, but will commit to working on this, this year. I want to preserve a bunch of what can be done in the https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/tree/chainsaw-with-log4j1-dep branch, and some of that just isn't possible because equivalent functionality was never

[chainsaw] Next steps? Or is it over?

2023-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
not ready to release a new version, nor do we know what is necessary to release one. We have lots of dead code in Chainsaw, and it is tough to understand "what should it do?" I move around many Swing components to understand better, because the code is complex. However, I didn

Re: [chainsaw] DB package?

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ten these days > I'm not sure exactly what it does/how it does it, but it's going to > effectively do something like "SELECT * FROM Logs" and then pass those > log messages up to other parts of chainsaw. I see. So the job would be to check how log4j2 appenders works, and

Re: [chainsaw] DB package?

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, at 22:19, Matt Sicker wrote: > If you use Log4j in Chainsaw, you could set up a JDBC appender or > similar to forward things along. The Flume appender could be useful > there, too, but that sort of moves the database configuration into your > Flume config.

Re: [chainsaw] DB package?

2023-10-24 Thread Robert Middleton
quot; and then pass those log messages up to other parts of chainsaw. -Robert Middleton On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 4:20 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > > If you use Log4j in Chainsaw, you could set up a JDBC appender or similar to > forward things along. The Flume appender could be useful there,

Re: [chainsaw] DB package?

2023-10-24 Thread Matt Sicker
If you use Log4j in Chainsaw, you could set up a JDBC appender or similar to forward things along. The Flume appender could be useful there, too, but that sort of moves the database configuration into your Flume config. > On Oct 24, 2023, at 3:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hi

[chainsaw] DB package?

2023-10-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, in this package: org.apache.log4j.db all classes are commented. I am tempted to just remove it in full, but I am not sure what i was supposed to do. Docs read: "Provides means to append logging events into various databases." Does that mean, Chainsaw would collect logs and th

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
gt; Note, you can also define 'expression views', like DB views, where an > event matching the expression is added to the expression view tab, but > that's on top of the default routing. > > On 10/13/23, Robert Middleton wrote: >> For those of you who didn't see

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-13 Thread Scott Deboy
outed. Note, you can also define 'expression views', like DB views, where an event matching the expression is added to the expression view tab, but that's on top of the default routing. On 10/13/23, Robert Middleton wrote: > For those of you who didn't see on slack: I did update

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-13 Thread Robert Middleton
For those of you who didn't see on slack: I did update Chainsaw last night so you can load/save receivers. That brings Chainsaw back into a usable state(in my mind at least). I need to check to ensure that everything gets saved properly, but that shouldn't be too hard. Scott, woul

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
; >>> >> serialized >> >>> >> map. Removing the java serialization is important. >> >>> > >> >>> > OK. Do you think something based on Jackson would be good? It's JSON >> >>> > though. >> >>> >

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-08 Thread Scott Deboy
g the java serialization is important. > >>> > > >>> > OK. Do you think something based on Jackson would be good? It's JSON > >>> > though. > >>> > > >>> > From an example: > >>> > > >>> >

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>> > From an example: >>> > >>> > ObjectMapper objectMapper = new ObjectMapper(); >>> > Car car = new Car("yellow", "renault"); >>> > objectMapper.writeValue(new File("target/car.json"), car); >>> > &

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Scott Deboy
quot;target/car.json"), car); >> > >> > We could wrap this in some kind of class and make it accessible per >> > "tab" (or whatever). >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -Robert Middleton >> >> >> >>

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Robert Middleton
rap this in some kind of class and make it accessible per "tab" > > (or whatever). > > > > > >> > >> -Robert Middleton > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:12 AM Christian Grobmeier > >> wrote: > >> > >>> >

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Matt Sicker
n >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:12 AM Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, at 02:55, Robert Middleton wrote: >>>> Some(most?) of the settings should be saved: >>>> >>> https://github.com/apache

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Mapper.writeValue(new File("target/car.json"), car); >> >> We could wrap this in some kind of class and make it accessible per "tab" >> (or whatever). >> >> >>> >>> -Robert Middleton >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Scott Deboy
w File("target/car.json"), car); > > We could wrap this in some kind of class and make it accessible per "tab" > (or whatever). > > >> >> -Robert Middleton >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:12 AM Christian Grobmeier

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
r whatever). > > -Robert Middleton > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:12 AM Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, at 02:55, Robert Middleton wrote: >> > Some(most?) of the settings should be saved: >> > >> https://

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Robert Middleton
ost?) of the settings should be saved: > > > https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/blob/5ccb3c8e55dffd4361c549c3bcdac3f3675f79e5/src/main/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw/prefs/SettingsManager.java#L191 > > > > The stuff that is commented out should just be the old saving code

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, at 02:55, Robert Middleton wrote: > Some(most?) of the settings should be saved: > https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/blob/5ccb3c8e55dffd4361c549c3bcdac3f3675f79e5/src/main/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw/prefs/SettingsManager.java#L191 > > The stuff that

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Robert Middleton
Some(most?) of the settings should be saved: https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/blob/5ccb3c8e55dffd4361c549c3bcdac3f3675f79e5/src/main/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw/prefs/SettingsManager.java#L191 The stuff that is commented out should just be the old saving code that used XStream to

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 22:09, Scott Deboy wrote: > I pushed branch "chainsaw-with-log4j1-dep" representing the working > log4j1 code for those that want to easily see what used to exist. > > I'll probably selectively incorporate pieces from that branch into master.

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Scott Deboy
I pushed branch "chainsaw-with-log4j1-dep" representing the working log4j1 code for those that want to easily see what used to exist. I'll probably selectively incorporate pieces from that branch into master. On 10/1/23, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 1, 2023,

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 21:28, Scott Deboy wrote: > The ability to route events to tabs is a core feature in the code - > that's how Chainsaw log messages end up in a Chainsaw-specific tab - > but the ability to control that routing via a 'routing expression' w

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Scott Deboy
The ability to route events to tabs is a core feature in the code - that's how Chainsaw log messages end up in a Chainsaw-specific tab - but the ability to control that routing via a 'routing expression' was nuked from app-wide preferences - another thing we should bring back. I

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Robert Middleton
ady upgraded some dependencies that have security flaws. 2 > more > >> are in the pom, but they have no patched versions so far. > >> > >> Should we add at least one feature? Is there maybe one already in that I > >> missed? > >> > >> I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced Swing-devs here > could > >> advise or maybe contribute some code so we can justify a release. > >> > >> The next question would be: > >> How is chainsaw released at all? > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Christian > >> >

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Scott Deboy
We lost the initial 'Load Chainsaw Configuration' dialog (and menu item) that gave folks a way to set up a Chainsaw configuration. I'd like to see us restore that functionality, along with a menu support. Right now, you have to define a receiver by hand, and it has to be redefi

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
have no patched versions so far. >> >> Should we add at least one feature? Is there maybe one already in that I >> missed? >> >> I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced Swing-devs here could >> advise or maybe contribute some code so we can justify a release. >> >> The next question would be: >> How is chainsaw released at all? >> >> Kind regards, >> Christian >>

Re: [chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Scott Deboy
o far. > > Should we add at least one feature? Is there maybe one already in that I > missed? > > I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced Swing-devs here could > advise or maybe contribute some code so we can justify a release. > > The next question would be: > How is chainsaw released at all? > > Kind regards, > Christian >

[chainsaw] What is necessary for a 2.2 release?

2023-10-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ne of the more experienced Swing-devs here could advise or maybe contribute some code so we can justify a release. The next question would be: How is chainsaw released at all? Kind regards, Christian

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-30 Thread Rob Tompkins
I would support https://github.com/apache/chainsaw being a set of standard go libraries much like commons is for java. Thoughts? -Rob > On Sep 26, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Rob Tompkins wrote: > > Ah :-) > > Cheers, > -Rob > >> On Sep 26, 2023, at 6:03 PM, Robert Middl

Re: [chainsaw] Lots of commented code // Backwards compatibility?

2023-09-29 Thread Robert Middleton
Yes, it was mostly to get rid of the log4j1 dependency and to get rid of/update other dependencies. There are a number of parts of chainsaw that depend on log4j1 features which may or may not be relevant. Most of the UI functionality should still exist, as far as I am aware. I think some of the

Re: [Discuss][VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-29 Thread Ralph Goers
a vote. Even >> when we consider it dormant, we should consider to fix the problem. >> Unlike log4j1, chainsaw was never considered EOL. >> >> I would like to hear from Scott but also Robert, who did the last commits. > > I was just reading that message again, and

Re: [chainsaw] Lots of commented code // Backwards compatibility?

2023-09-29 Thread Scott Deboy
I think Robert commented out most of that to get rid of the log4j1 dependency. I'm slightly concerned we'll lose a ton of UI functionality in that process, but it's in history if it's still needed, so delete away if you'd like. For comparison, you can look at the 'ch

[chainsaw] Lots of commented code // Backwards compatibility?

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, Looking through the code base, I saw lots of code that is commented. Some classes (maybe because of this) are not even used anymore. I only saw one class (ChainsawViewer), which might make sense to keep. Is it OK to remove this all? Or is there a specific reason for this? Some methods are

Re: [chainsaw] Is ZeroConf support relevant?

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Oh wow I was sure this is log4j1 great, I even found some docs. https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/configuration.html#chainsaw-can-automatically-process-your-log-files-advertising-ap Thanks! On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, at 21:40, Scott Deboy wrote: > This is a log4j2 feature. > &

Re: [chainsaw] Is ZeroConf support relevant?

2023-09-29 Thread Scott Deboy
This is a log4j2 feature. Scott On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 12:24 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Volkan asked this question here: > https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/issues/24 > > I guess, since Log4j1 is EOL we can safely remove this feature, right? >

[chainsaw] Is ZeroConf support relevant?

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Volkan asked this question here: https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/issues/24 I guess, since Log4j1 is EOL we can safely remove this feature, right?

Re: [chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, at 18:51, Scott Deboy wrote: > There should be a default config. Do you have anything in the .chainsaw > directory? If so, delete it. Yes figured it right when I received your message. The application created this directory. Looking into it, there were fi

Re: [chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Scott Deboy
There should be a default config. Do you have anything in the .chainsaw directory? If so, delete it. On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 9:49 AM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > OK, got it running, after commenting those lines: > > //statusBar.setSelected(config.getBoolean("statusBar")); >

Re: [chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
xception/stack trace to be printed to stderr if an exception was thrown >> that caused it to fail to load. >> >> -Robert Middleton >> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:17 AM Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have found o

Re: [chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
te: > It starts up for me with Netbeans and OpenJDK 11. I would expect an > exception/stack trace to be printed to stderr if an exception was thrown > that caused it to fail to load. > > -Robert Middleton > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:17 AM Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >

Re: [chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Robert Middleton
It starts up for me with Netbeans and OpenJDK 11. I would expect an exception/stack trace to be printed to stderr if an exception was thrown that caused it to fail to load. -Robert Middleton On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:17 AM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi, > > I have found out

[chainsaw] Trouble starting it at all

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I have found out Chainsaw requires Java 11. I used this from IntelliJ and run LogUI. However, even when there is no error message, the Splash Screen never disappears. Is there any specific verion of Java I need? These are he last lines i see: 15:15:29.580 [AWT-EventQueue-0] DEBUG

Re: [Discuss][VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
be retired and until he positively says he will no >> longer maintain it I am not willing to override that. > > > Agreed. I don’t think this discussion is already due for a vote. Even > when we consider it dormant, we should consider to fix the problem. > Unlike log4j1, chai

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-28 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:00 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on > maintenance and no PMC member stepped up to perform necessary chores. > This is a vote to retire the Chainsaw by means of > > - Move it to the list of

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-28 Thread Gary Gregory
t is still useful and works > > well. I'll continue to contribute to maintenance. > > > > Scott > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 10:00 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > > >> As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on > >> ma

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-28 Thread Ralph Goers
2023, 10:00 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > >> As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on >> maintenance and no PMC member stepped up to perform necessary chores. >> This is a vote to retire the Chainsaw by means of >> >> - Move it to the list of dormant

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-27 Thread Gary Gregory
ultiple hosts into a single tab and > filter in that view. > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 7:35 PM Robert Middleton > wrote: > > > I think Chainsaw /can/ be useful, but it currently is not. If people are > > willing to work on it a bit more, I can help ou

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
Ah :-) Cheers, -Rob > On Sep 26, 2023, at 6:03 PM, Robert Middleton wrote: > > logging-chainsaw is not archived and contains the most up-to-date code. > The old 'chainsaw' repository has been archived. > > -Robert Middleton > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 5:57 P

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-26 Thread Robert Middleton
logging-chainsaw is not archived and contains the most up-to-date code. The old 'chainsaw' repository has been archived. -Robert Middleton On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 5:57 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > Maybe we should un-archive it and run with it in a new direction? > > -Rob > &

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
Maybe we should un-archive it and run with it in a new direction? -Rob > On Sep 26, 2023, at 4:43 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hi, > > Infra archived this repo for us: > https://github.com/apache/chainsaw > > Kind regards, > Christian > > On Fri, Sep

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, Infra archived this repo for us: https://github.com/apache/chainsaw Kind regards, Christian On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, at 22:33, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 2:28 PM Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, at 20:16, Gary Gre

Re: [Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-26 Thread Gary Gregory
ork properly. I >>> think it's good and needed, but it definitely needs a user-friendly way of >>> selecting a log file and viewing a live example of how it will parse the >>> log file. Although for my purposes, we don't actually write to a log file, >>>

Re: [Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-25 Thread Scott Deboy
ded, but it definitely needs a user-friendly way of >> selecting a log file and viewing a live example of how it will parse the >> log file. Although for my purposes, we don't actually write to a log file, >> so it's a bit of a moot point. >> >> The next quest

Re: [Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-25 Thread Scott Deboy
urposes, we don't actually write to a log file, > so it's a bit of a moot point. > > The next question of course is what do I feel would be better? I spent > some time working on that tonight as a proof of concept, and here's what I > came up with(with chainsaw in the ba

Re: [Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-25 Thread Robert Middleton
a log file, so it's a bit of a moot point. The next question of course is what do I feel would be better? I spent some time working on that tonight as a proof of concept, and here's what I came up with(with chainsaw in the background for reference): [image: Screenshot from 2023-09-25 2

Re: [Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-23 Thread Scott Deboy
that he would help with maintenance and Rob T has also > indicated that he would perhaps help, this is my view of the current status > of Chainsaw and what I feel its current deficiencies are. > > Current status: Master builds and mostly works. The last thing that I had > been work

[Chainsaw] Thoughts on moving forward

2023-09-23 Thread Robert Middleton
Since Scott has said that he would help with maintenance and Rob T has also indicated that he would perhaps help, this is my view of the current status of Chainsaw and what I feel its current deficiencies are. Current status: Master builds and mostly works. The last thing that I had been working

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-22 Thread Scott Deboy
ink Chainsaw /can/ be useful, but it currently is not. If people are > willing to work on it a bit more, I can help out a bit. I can see it > potentially being useful for the type of work that I do(embedded work) but > it needs a fair amount of attention in order to get to the useful level

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-22 Thread Robert Middleton
I think Chainsaw /can/ be useful, but it currently is not. If people are willing to work on it a bit more, I can help out a bit. I can see it potentially being useful for the type of work that I do(embedded work) but it needs a fair amount of attention in order to get to the useful level IMO. I

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-22 Thread Gary Gregory
2023, at 21:53, Robert Middleton wrote: > >> > I think #1 is a mirror of SVN( > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/chainsaw/trunk/), while #2 is a > >> > mirror of the gitbox repository. > >> > >> Looks like the SVN mirror is outdated. Can

Re: [chainsaw] Developing for Chainsaw

2023-09-22 Thread Matt Sicker
What version of Java are you using here? Chances are that you’ll need to use Java 8 for this. > On Sep 22, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried to start Chainsaw from the official build, using Maven (mvn package) > and even starting it using th

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-22 Thread Matt Sicker
oes not work? [1] hasn't been updated since > 2014. > > [1] https://github.com/apache/chainsaw > [2] https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw

[chainsaw] Developing for Chainsaw

2023-09-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I tried to start Chainsaw from the official build, using Maven (mvn package) and even starting it using the LogUI main class. All methods failed for various reasons. What is the best method to get Chainsaw started, when trying to fix an issue? Kind regards, Christian When running using

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
gt; Gary > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 1:50 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, at 21:53, Robert Middleton wrote: >> > I think #1 is a mirror of SVN( >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/chainsaw/trunk/), while #2 is a >>

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-22 Thread Gary Gregory
N( > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/chainsaw/trunk/), while #2 is a > > mirror of the gitbox repository. > > Looks like the SVN mirror is outdated. Can we safely remove it? > If there are no objections, I will create a ticket with infra > > Christian > > >

Re: `chainsaw` vs `logging-chainsaw`

2023-09-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, at 21:53, Robert Middleton wrote: > I think #1 is a mirror of SVN( > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/chainsaw/trunk/), while #2 is a > mirror of the gitbox repository. Looks like the SVN mirror is outdated. Can we safely remove it? If there are no obje

Re: [VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-22 Thread Scott Deboy
-1 While changes may be infrequent, the project is still useful and works well. I'll continue to contribute to maintenance. Scott On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 10:00 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on > maintenance and no PMC member

Re: [Discuss][VOTE] Move Chainsaw to dormant status

2023-09-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
it I am not willing to override that. Agreed. I don’t think this discussion is already due for a vote. Even when we consider it dormant, we should consider to fix the problem. Unlike log4j1, chainsaw was never considered EOL. I would like to hear from Scott but also Robert, who did the

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