Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-04 Thread Matt Sicker
I think a more specific problem was that nobody on the PMC knows much about this component. The active developers are committers and contributors currently. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 01:01 Tobias Frost wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:34:15PM -0500, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Very well said! It help

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Tobias Frost
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:34:15PM -0500, Matt Sicker wrote: > Very well said! It helps get user feedback quicker, too. +1! Also, the current "stable" has some many bugs (I carry 13 non Debian-specific patches in the current Debian package…) and a new release would also fix some open Bugs on the

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Tobias Frost
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:49:14PM -0400, Robert Middleton wrote: > Thorsten, > > > > A number of these are rather large changes, so it probably > > > doesn't make sense to work on them until there's a known-good release, as > > > they would likely break both API and ABI compatibility. > > > > D

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Matt Sicker
Very well said! It helps get user feedback quicker, too. On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 19:03 Ralph Goers wrote: > Here are my thoughts after working on several ASF projects for over 15 > years. > > Theoretically logging projects should follow the “release early, release > often” philosophy. There are a

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Ralph Goers
Here are my thoughts after working on several ASF projects for over 15 years. Theoretically logging projects should follow the “release early, release often” philosophy. There are a few good reasons why it should be that way. However, when you have a project with very few committers with limited

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Robert Middleton
Thorsten, > > A number of these are rather large changes, so it probably > > doesn't make sense to work on them until there's a known-good release, as > > they would likely break both API and ABI compatibility. > > Does it really matter much if things are broken now vs. with 0.12.0 or > alike? B

Re: [log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-03 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Robert Middleton, am Montag, 3. August 2020 um 02:17 schrieben Sie: > I'd like to propose some new features/updates for log4cxx, if there's > interest. Things mostly read good and interesting to me. Even though I would suffer myself a lot most likely, as my currently used compiler/IDE i

[log4cxx] Feature Proposals

2020-08-02 Thread Robert Middleton
Hey all, I'd like to propose some new features/updates for log4cxx, if there's interest. A number of these are rather large changes, so it probably doesn't make sense to work on them until there's a known-good release, as they would likely break both API and ABI compatibility. Big Changes: 1