Re: [RESULT][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-09 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Here it is: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/690 Mind somebody reviewing and merging it, please? On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 1:35 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > Hi all, > > Where can we record this decision? In a text file in the repo? Wiki? Both? > > Gary > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022, 05:22 Volka

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-07 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi all, Where can we record this decision? In a text file in the repo? Wiki? Both? Gary On Fri, Jan 7, 2022, 05:22 Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Hello, > > This is the result of the vote introducing the process that enforces > CVE submissions[1] and their content to be first subject to voting by > me

[RESULT][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-07 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Hello, This is the result of the vote introducing the process that enforces CVE submissions[1] and their content to be first subject to voting by means of "lazy approval"[2] using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.org` mailing list: 6x +1 (accepting the process), all binding 2x +0 (abstainin

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-07 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
+1 (with lazy approval) On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:59 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that > enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to > voting using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.org` maili

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Matt Sicker
+1 for going with lazy approval CVE process. -- Matt Sicker > On Jan 3, 2022, at 05:59, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that > enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to > voting using the (private)

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1, as this only affects the creation of cves but does not block the fixing going on immediately. I think we do not require majority though, just waiting if someone objects is fine for me On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, at 12:59, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Matt Sicker
Lazy approval is the technical term for the voting style you’re describing. Lazy consensus is how committers and PMC members are voted on. Snippet: * Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and no binding vetoes. * A lazy majority vote requires 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 votes tha

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Dominik Psenner
+-0 I have no strong opinion. I do believe that an informal consensus about our best practice should be all we need. It should suffice when two pmc members acknowledge both fix and official communication. My perception is that we already do our best. Beyond that, it will always be a walk on the ed

[DISCUSS][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Ralph Goers
While you may think they are just investigating the vulnerability there really is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes. I know the second or third CVE we addressed took several days for me to be able to confirm it was actually a vulnerability. I was quite surprised that the DNS system does

RE: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Xeno Amess > Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 10:40 AM > > +0 > > I just worried several things. > > 1. Will it make the cve's fix come out more slowly? > A vote means waiting for 72 hours usually. > > 2. Do all PMC who enter the vote always have enough ability

[DISCUSS\[VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Ralph Goers
These are two really good questions! The 72 hours is recommended due to people being spread around the world and people being unavailable due to pressing $dayjob or family items, weekends, etc. But in an emergency the voting period can be compressed. This PMC has done a remarkably good job of

[DISCUSS][VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Ralph Goers
I would have recommended doing this vote by lazy consensus - i.e. you only need to vote if you object, since we have previously discussed this and no one seemed to object. Ralph > On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:59 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to intro

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Xeno Amess
It is already slow enough... I submitted a vulnerability which I think at least can be 7 points, to an apache project (not this one) the day before yesterday. And they have not finished the investigation yet...two days already... And considering this is in vocation, it is normal to assume the ac

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 Ralph > On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:59 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that > enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to > voting using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.org` mailing list. > >

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Xeno Amess
+0 I just worried several things. 1. Will it make the cve's fix come out more slowly? A vote means waiting for 72 hours usually. 2. Do all PMC who enter the vote always have enough ability and knowledge for notifying how severe a vulnerability? Some vulnerabilities are, seems small problem, noth

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Carter Kozak
+1 -ck > On Jan 3, 2022, at 6:59 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that > enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to > voting using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.org` mailing list. > > [

Re: [VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Gary Gregory
[X] +1, accept the process Gary On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:59 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Hello, > > As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that > enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to > voting using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.or

[VOTE] CVE creation process

2022-01-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Hello, As discussed earlier[1], this is a vote to introduce the process that enforces CVE submissions and their content should be first subject to voting using the (private) `secur...@logging.apache.org` mailing list. [] +1, accept the process [] -1, object to the process because... The vote wil