Re: [OT] Java 9 modules drama

2017-05-05 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > A response from RedHat - http://mail.openjdk.java.net/ > pipermail/jpms-spec-experts/2017-May/000690.html < > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jpms-spec-experts/ > 2017-May/000690.html>. > Quite sensitive it seems. Gary > > Ralph > >

Re: [OT] Java 9 modules drama

2017-05-05 Thread Gary Gregory
My take on a higher level is that Java 9 should be released without Jigsaw and make sure all the toolchains work out of the box, Maven, Gradle, and so on. Java 9 modules smell of NIH and if I really want modules today there are solutions out there: OSGi with many implementations, JBoss Modules, and

Re: [OT] Java 9 modules drama

2017-05-05 Thread Ralph Goers
A response from RedHat - http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jpms-spec-experts/2017-May/000690.html . Ralph > On May 5, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > Wow. He is basically saying that Java 9 with the m

Re: [OT] Java 9 modules drama

2017-05-05 Thread Ralph Goers
Wow. He is basically saying that Java 9 with the module system is going to be released whether or not the expert group approves it or not. I also noticed that the link to the Maven core developers responses immediately followed the response of Stephen Colebourne who flatly said auto modules won’

[OT] Java 9 modules drama

2017-05-05 Thread Gary Gregory
FYI: http://mreinhold.org/blog/to-the-jcp-ec Gary