Re: New for 3.0: Ergonomic Default Settings

2023-10-03 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Matt, On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 18:36, Matt Sicker wrote: > > I’ve had this idea for many years now, and as we get closer to 3.0, it seems > like it’s time to consider the details. We can change the default > configuration in 3.0 without being as surprising as any other version. I > think we co

Re: New for 3.0: Ergonomic Default Settings

2023-10-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Please, not JSON output by default. Gary On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 12:57 PM Ralph Goers wrote: > Are you just talking about changing the current default configuration? Or > are you envisioning having more than one somewhow? > > If this is just about changing the current default configuration then I

Re: New for 3.0: Ergonomic Default Settings

2023-10-03 Thread Matt Sicker
Oh right, JTL isn’t in core, but it could be! And if we change the default layout to continue using a pattern layout, how about some colors and such like how Spring Boot defaults? And yes, multiple default configurations was another idea I had, but I wasn’t sure how to phrase that. > On Oct 3,

Re: New for 3.0: Ergonomic Default Settings

2023-10-03 Thread Ralph Goers
Are you just talking about changing the current default configuration? Or are you envisioning having more than one somewhow? If this is just about changing the current default configuration then I have some concerns: 1. It always has to work. 2. It cannot rely on optional components. JsonTempl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Matt Sicker
+1 Same comment about the `mvnw` script not being executable. The README could perhaps be updated with build instructions in the future. > On Oct 3, 2023, at 4:13 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2). > > Website: https://logging.stage

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Matt Sicker
+1 I should note that the included `mvnw` script is not executable in the zip. > On Oct 3, 2023, at 3:29 AM, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0 (RC2). > > Website: https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4j/tools > GitHub: https://github.com/apache/log

New for 3.0: Ergonomic Default Settings

2023-10-03 Thread Matt Sicker
I’ve had this idea for many years now, and as we get closer to 3.0, it seems like it’s time to consider the details. We can change the default configuration in 3.0 without being as surprising as any other version. I think we could use this as an opportunity to demonstrate some best practices and

Re: [proposal] Create sandbox, open to all committers

2023-10-03 Thread Ralph Goers
+0 I don’t see the value of creating a new repo for people to contribute to. If someone has a new idea they can create their own GitHub repo and tell us about it. If we like it we can fork it into our own repo. Obviously, releases would never be performed out of such a repo. That means any cod

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 11:13, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2). > > Website: https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4j/kotlin > GitHub: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-kotlin > Commit: 56197c6809fef293832539481b9fdbea0fc3d323 > Distrib

Re: [proposal] Create sandbox, open to all committers

2023-10-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Sounds like it will be messy to deal with IMO, especially with any committer allowed to do anything. GitHub PRs seems to already provide all of the infrastructure we need. I must be missing something. -0 Gary On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 4:51 AM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi, > > I want to create a

Re: [proposal] Create sandbox, open to all committers

2023-10-03 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Christian, On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 10:51, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I am hesitating making this an official vote, since some of us may not have > seen this proposal buried in the other threads. However, if there is no > negative response to this thread, I will move forward and request a git

[VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0 (RC2). Website: https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4j/kotlin GitHub: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-kotlin Commit: 56197c6809fef293832539481b9fdbea0fc3d323 Distribution: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4j-kotl

[proposal] Create sandbox, open to all committers

2023-10-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I want to create a sandbox for experimental logging features and ideas. All ASF committers should be welcome to contribute and have access by default. Everybody can add their custom extensions to it and develop it further. We would collect code bases from all over the eco system on a centra

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Volkan, On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 10:29, Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > Please download, test, and cast your votes on this mailing list. > > [ ] +1, release the artifacts > [ ] -1, don't release, because... I checked: * the source archive for the reproducibility of the build, * the git commit for repro

[VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0 (RC2)

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0 (RC2). Website: https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4j/tools GitHub: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-tools Commit: 540cbd7dfa97cf26dc83717f738d26ee9a6b6e22 Distribution: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4j-tools Nexus

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
I am cancelling this vote (due to reasons stated in the thread) and will issue an RC2 promptly. On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 3:26 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Kotlin API 1.3.0. > > Source repository: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-kotlin > Commit: b27

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
I am cancelling this vote (due to reasons stated in the thread) and will issue an RC2 promptly. On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 1:13 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Log4j Tools 0.5.0. > > Source repository: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-tools > Commit: 861b03c70

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Logging Parent 10.1.1 released

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Apache Logging Parent team is pleased to announce the 10.1.1 release. This project contains the parent POM for other Maven-based Apache Logging Services projects. For further information (support, download, etc.) see the project website[1]. [1] https://logging.apache.org/logging-parent === Releas

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Logging Parent 10.1.1

2023-10-03 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Adding my +1. With that, the release passes with 3 binding +1 votes from Piotr, Matt, and me. I will continue the release process. On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:22 AM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > This is a vote to release the Apache Logging Parent 10.1.1. > > Source repository: https://github.com/apach