Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-04 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
ink especially for parent poms we should pay extra attention. > > Chris > > > > > > Von: Jarek Potiuk > Datum: Freitag, 1. September 2023 um 09:24 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Releasing with lazy consensus > I would love to hear about it, but I belie

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-01 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> "Bulk" voting is something I have heard before. Certainly can be a solution *if* the packages don't depend on each other. Otherwise I cannot see how it helps with the cases I shared earlier. That is, `log4j-core` needs to be released first so that `log4j-bom` can be updated and released. Put anot

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-01 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
Thanks for sharing insights from the Airflow land, much appreciated. "Bulk" voting is something I have heard before. Certainly can be a solution *if* the packages don't depend on each other. Otherwise I cannot see how it helps with the cases I shared earlier. That is, `log4j-core` needs to be rele

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-01 Thread hans . van . akelyen
This is a bit of a grey area, so I would love to hear the opinion of others. From my perspective a vote is only needed when doing a release of the source code, all the other things fall under the “convenience binaries/artifacts" So things like docker images/BOM/packaging based on the source code

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-01 Thread Jarek Potiuk
I would love to hear about it, but I believe releasing any software is an "act of Foundation" and requires 3 explicit PMC members to say "+1" in order for it to have legal repercussions. So I am not so sure if releasing "software" of any kind that can be "ASF software" should be done without votin

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-09-01 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
I am aware that certain projects follow this [LAZY][VOTE] convention. But I am not able to read our release policy in such a way to allow that. What I would appreciate is that somebody pointing me to a certain part of the policy and explaining the legal room for this [LAZY][VOTE] act. For the reco

Re: Releasing with lazy consensus

2023-08-31 Thread Richard Zowalla
The commons project often releases their parent pom with lazy consensus, for example: https://lists.apache.org/thread/34onls4fw189smx5gjznkk8z80t3j6lc Am Freitag, dem 01.09.2023 um 08:52 +0200 schrieb Volkan Yazıcı: > Is such a thing possible? It is pretty common that many Java projects > have > m