Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-10-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
I hope I captured things correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NutfacePMIs

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Jagielski
> > ++1... I was primarily pointing out that we want to remember to respect > different approaches, and that includes folks who do this 9-5 on weekdays > or shows up with something cool and then just disappears again for a while. > > Shambhala comes to mind :) Of course! As someone who was there

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-24 Thread Dave Fisher
Top posting: And that is why merit does not expire. Something very cool is likely to be returned unless you've burned, bridges! As imperfect as anyone. Regards, Dave PS. When discussing forebears ask me about parents and stock databases. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Wil

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sep 23, 2015 4:53 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > > > > > Spending a weekend with my kids, who are both introverts, helps > > remind me of the needs of those who are not 'public people'. We > > have many successful examples, I'm thinking especially of Sam > > or even Rich who are actually much

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Aris Siarot
H Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:59 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> >> Wonder is not being able to fork a project, make some patches, >> submit a bunch of pull requests and then get a handful of them >> committed ups

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
> > Spending a weekend with my kids, who are both introverts, helps > remind me of the needs of those who are not 'public people'. We > have many successful examples, I'm thinking especially of Sam > or even Rich who are actually much quieter and reserved and > generally 'go off into their own s

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Wonder is not being able to fork a project, make some patches, > submit a bunch of pull requests and then get a handful of them > committed upstream... That is so solitary. The wonder is > working *with* and collaborating *with* and re

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Raul Kripalani
c this side of the > >>swing > >> is much shorter. I guess because any "fork and forget" projects that > >> succeed will typically become either an autocratic or meritocratic > >>project > >> in order to scale. > >> > > >> > As

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Alex Harui
t;> in order to scale. >> > >> > As with my other pendulum thought experiment I believe we sit at the >> "sensible" place on that spectrum (point b). That isn't today it's the >>only >> place that can work, but that it is where it works for the Apache Way

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Alexei Fedotov
education). Speaking > personally a recent change in my dayjob role means that I'm coding for fun > again - so that's at least one person going in the opposite direction to > the one Jim sees is the majority (lucky me!) > > > > Ross > > > > [1] > http

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
> personally a recent change in my dayjob role means that I'm coding for fun > again - so that's at least one person going in the opposite direction to the > one Jim sees is the majority (lucky me!) > > Ross > > [1] > http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Rich Bowen
That is a fascinating analysis, and a lot to think about. Thanks. On 09/22/2015 08:26 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: An observation, from an ASF Member ... TL;DR version: this is only history repeating itself, as long as we, the people doing the work, continue to learn and adapt the open source wor

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-23 Thread Alexei Fedotov
(lucky me!) > > Ross > > [1] > http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x > > > -----Original Message- > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:01 PM > To: dev@comm

RE: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Ross Gardler
to the one Jim sees is the majority (lucky me!) Ross [1] http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:01 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
I would be OK with us getting older and forgetting the child-like wonder (but I don't think that's the case; well, we *are* getting older, but not forgetting the wonder), IF we were seeing the child-like wonder being continued, esp by the next gen. Some see Github as "proof" that the wonder is sti

RE: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Ross Gardler
An observation, from an ASF Member ... TL;DR version: this is only history repeating itself, as long as we, the people doing the work, continue to learn and adapt the open source world will survive Long version... My dad (who I consider far wiser than me) taught me that things tend to go in ap

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Raul Kripalani
I beg to differ. From my point of view, OSS is bustling and it's funner than ever. Partly responsible are tools like Github, as they've made projects easily publishable and discoverable; they've demystified OSS and made it even simpler for anyone to pitch in and contribute. Moreover, huge services

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 22 Sep 15, at 16:35, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Jim, > > Is that really happening? Is the fun leaving? Or is it we are all just > getting old and are forgetting the child-like wonder? I think that the fun is not leaving—rather the opposite, in fact--and that age, or more accurately, being

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

2015-09-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Jim, Is that really happening? Is the fun leaving? Or is it we are all just getting old and are forgetting the child-like wonder? On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Some of you may know that I've started a Vlog series on Youtube > around some topics I find interesting,