Re: ASF wide policy on github's squash and merge?

2021-04-06 Thread antonio
Hi Jarek, This is exactly what we need! Question is, are you adding the "Co-authored-by:" line by hand or is it automatically generated whenever a Pull Request is created in Github? It would be great if we could have this populated automatically for an easier review. Maybe there're some set

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matt Sicker
I’d have to give myself a badge for confusing a -1 with a veto long ago. More badge ideas! :) On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 20:44 Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > If it something fun and aimed at building community and opt-in then I’d > say go for it. > > > Here's the badges I have earned at Fedora: > >

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, If it something fun and aimed at building community and opt-in then I’d say go for it. > Here's the badges I have earned at Fedora: > > https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/rcb > There's some fun ones there. I’d like to hand out a few of these

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:19 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > I had a similar idea some years back, but with a slightly more > tongue-in-cheek approach. > >From a peanut gallery: whatever we do THE ABOVE is the attitude I would advocate -- take it seriously and you stand a real chance of ruining your com

Re: Welcome all TLPs and incubating projects to join Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan

2021-04-06 Thread Willem Jiang
There is a community sign up application here[1]. It can be applied per Apache project. Please fill the Template for Community Application[2] and send it to sum...@iscas.ac.cn. If you want to join. Last year, there were 6 Apache projects participating in this summer project, and about 30+ student

Re: ASF wide policy on github's squash and merge?

2021-04-06 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Maybe I am missing something, but as far as I know, GitHub already has all that is needed to retain the co-ownership of squashed commits. Not sure how your workflow is, but In Apache Airflow we use squash & merge exclusively and `co-autorship` is pretty common. For example, when I try to squash an

[jira] [Created] (COMDEV-414) OpenJPA statistics in reporter.a.o doesn't show any closed JIRA tickets

2021-04-06 Thread Mark Struberg (Jira)
Mark Struberg created COMDEV-414: Summary: OpenJPA statistics in reporter.a.o doesn't show any closed JIRA tickets Key: COMDEV-414 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-414 Project: Commun

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Matthew, > On Apr 6, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: > > - we can also maybe build on the Badgr project, is that what you would say > is preferable? > > - so ill out it on the incubator list? I would start by reading https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ Some of the requirements i

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matt Sicker
The Fedora badges idea, particularly the spur-of-the-moment badges, seems lighthearted enough to avoid a CV generator. I like it. On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 13:35, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > On 4/6/21 2:26 PM, Matthew Sacks wrote: > > - we can also maybe build on the Badgr project, is that what you wou

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 2:26 PM, Matthew Sacks wrote: - we can also maybe build on the Badgr project, is that what you would say is preferable? - so ill out it on the incubator list? What about the infra list? Should I mentioned it there? As I apparently completely misunderstood your purpose (viz: boot

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
- we can also maybe build on the Badgr project, is that what you would say is preferable? - so ill out it on the incubator list? What about the infra list? Should I mentioned it there? On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:29 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 4/6/21 11:16 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: > > 1) if rat

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Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 11:16 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: 1) if rather build my own badge software from scratch for the ASF badge use specifically. It is indeed a software project, and yes you’ve fully misunderstood as you mentioned, WADR. Whether or not infra decides to use the software will be based on

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
1) if rather build my own badge software from scratch for the ASF badge use specifically. It is indeed a software project, and yes you’ve fully misunderstood as you mentioned, WADR. Whether or not infra decides to use the software will be based on the usefulness of the Podling PoC for the new bad

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 10:57 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: I’m not sure wtf it doing but this GT relying on the elder buffers and more experienced guidance (specifically Mark Thomas, JimJag’s input, Brett Porter) here goes: can we vote yes or no should this be turned into a proposal of some kind, incubator or o

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
(X) This should be formalized ( ) this should not be formalized or proposed because: I vote +1 formalize a proposal for project hosting. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:57 AM Matthew Sacks wrote: > I’m not sure wtf it doing but this GT relying on the elder buffers and > more experienced guidance (sp

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
I’m not sure wtf it doing but this GT relying on the elder buffers and more experienced guidance (specifically Mark Thomas, JimJag’s input, Brett Porter) here goes: can we vote yes or no should this be turned into a proposal of some kind, incubator or other, depending on where it is most appropriat

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le mar. 6 avr. 2021 à 14:27, Rich Bowen a écrit : > > > On 4/6/21 3:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Le mar. 6 avr. 2021 à 02:56, Justin Mclean a > > écrit : > > > >> The other issue I see is how are the badges awarded?... > >> > > > > IMO the only fair and "safe" way is to have factual b

Re: Welcome all TLPs and incubating projects to join Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan

2021-04-06 Thread Sheng Wu
Thanks, Sally. Hope this could help both sides, community development and student understanding of the open-source and ASF. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Sally Khudairi 于2021年4月6日周二 下午9:30写道: > Thanks, Sheng. > > I'll be happy to share this message with PMCs and pPMCs. > > Best, > Sally > >

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 1:30 PM Daniel Ferradal wrote: ... > I think I can safely say now , I won't take part on this subject any > more, and I don't like your attitude and tone one bit, independently > of what happens to this idea, which may end up being good for ASF.. or > not, yet you seem to be

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
вт, 6 апр. 2021 г. в 03:02, Jarek Potiuk : > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:59 AM Johan Corveleyn wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:47 PM Daniel Ferradal > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In my humble opinion, I don't like labels, medals, awards, bands, > > > distinctions, badges, ribbo

Re: Welcome all TLPs and incubating projects to join Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan

2021-04-06 Thread Sally Khudairi
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Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 9:04 AM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: I am not dead sure, but I think this is the first comment in this conversation that there should be a chance to opt out of such a structure. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:22 AM Rich Bowen wrote: Don't want to play along? Then don't! Opt out! I would

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
FWIW, I'm not in favor of this if it's some kind of resume builder. This is the Community Development list. The places where I have seen badges done effectively, it's about community participation, not about any kind of "certification" or "authentication". It's about fun. It's about "community

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Andrew Wetmore
I am not dead sure, but I think this is the first comment in this conversation that there should be a chance to opt out of such a structure. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:22 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > Don't want to play along? Then don't! Opt out! > > I would go further and suggest that the whole gam

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 3:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le mar. 6 avr. 2021 à 02:56, Justin Mclean a écrit : The other issue I see is how are the badges awarded?... IMO the only fair and "safe" way is to have factual badges. Things like "committer", "PMC member", "took the ASF media training" et

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 4/6/21 6:52 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: Next step is put up an incubator/podling proposal for vote? Wait what? No, this wouldn't be a podling, if you're proposing that we run a service like Badgr. It would just be a service that someone stands up and runs. A podling is for a new software

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Wow. People are really taking this whimsical suggestion super-seriously On 4/5/21 8:56 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, Other foundations such as the linux foundation do have badges for their training courses and certification[1], but I don’t know of any that have badges for making contributions.

Welcome all TLPs and incubating projects to join Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan

2021-04-06 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi ComDev I would like to share an international annual program, Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan, which encourages university students to complete open-source coding/design/document tasks in the summer. https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/ (Right top has an `ENG` button to switch to the English

Re: ASF wide policy on github's squash and merge?

2021-04-06 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
пн, 5 апр. 2021 г. в 23:02, antonio : > > Hi all, > > First of all, apologies if this is not the proper list to ask these sort > of questions. If this is the case I'd appreciate some guidance on who to > ask these questions. > > It seems github automatically changes author [1] and contributor [2] >

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Daniel Ferradal
First I want to appreciate Craig, Tim and others who tried to understand what I said instead of just disregarding a simple opinion like mine right away, for some people like me, wording may not be my forte (specially since english is not my native language), but they read it and tried to understand

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
Next step is put up an incubator/podling proposal for vote? Is it the same incubator procedure as it’s a proposed infra service? Anyone willing to mentor? Champion? On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:50 AM Mark Thomas wrote: > On 06/04/2021 01:56, Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > > Depending on the badg

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
Because it was unintelligible nonsense. WADR. On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 4:58 PM Craig Russell wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > Your message makes me think you did not get past Daniel's first eight > words. > > If you read the message, he gives a few reasons to dislike badges. > > Your snarky response is no

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:02 PM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:59 AM Johan Corveleyn wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:47 PM Daniel Ferradal > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In my humble opinion, I don't like labels, medals, awards, bands, > > > distinctions, badge

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
Please allow me to clarify. The badge is a certification method that can’t be fudged, not an award if any kind. Being apart of the ASF is it’s own award. This is just a certified badge that proves it and can’t be fudged like a “Microsoft certified” graphic, for example. I can claim ASF membership

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:50 AM Mark Thomas wrote: > On 06/04/2021 01:56, Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > > Depending on the badges it might also easy to game. e.g. if I need 100 > commits to get a badge, then I’m going to make lots of small commute rather > than one big one. If there a badge for e

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 1:00 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Le mar. 6 avr. 2021 à 02:56, Justin Mclean a > écrit : > > > The other issue I see is how are the badges awarded?.. Via an infra certified API using strict rules? > > IMO the only fair and "safe" way is to have factual badges. Thin

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Matthew Sacks
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:47 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > I perceived sarcasm from you as well. What does that have to do with a new product? Let’s focus on meaningful work, not assassinating character because we don’t like, or like an idea. > > > I’m personally unsure about the best way to

AW: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Christofer Dutz
So, I generally agree with all of you: 1) I like the Idea of Badges 2) I dislike the way they could cause email/commit noise and discourage people from contributing. I'll never forget my first visit to: http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html when I became a committer. I'll never forget w

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le mar. 6 avr. 2021 à 02:56, Justin Mclean a écrit : > The other issue I see is how are the badges awarded?... > IMO the only fair and "safe" way is to have factual badges. Things like "committer", "PMC member", "took the ASF media training" etc which are all facts. Bertrand >

Re: New Apache.org product concept: Digital Merit Badges

2021-04-06 Thread Mark Thomas
On 06/04/2021 01:56, Justin Mclean wrote: Depending on the badges it might also easy to game. e.g. if I need 100 commits to get a badge, then I’m going to make lots of small commute rather than one big one. If there a badge for emails send to lest then I’m going to send more emails. I ‘m no