Re: 2020 ASF Community Survey

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Thomas
On 06/12/2019 00:24, Mark Thomas wrote: Sorry. I meant to send this to the Tomcat dev@ list and only realised my error as I saw the window close after clicking send. Everyone here is, of course, more than welcome to complete the survey. I just wanted to explain why I ended up forwarding the messa

2020 ASF Community Survey

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Thomas
Hello everyone, If you have an apache.org email, you should have received an email with an invitation to take the 2020 ASF Community Survey. Please take 15 minutes to complete it. If you do not have an apache.org email address or you didn’t receive a link, please follow this link to the survey: h

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

2019-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
From the peanut gallery: IMO, without a formal training/certification program, what even an ASF Member understands about the Apache Way, not to mention committers who are not members, is up for grabs. It is essentially the party game "telephone" where one person says something to another perso

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

2019-12-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 5, 2019, at 3:52 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > > Picking up on one point > > On 05/12/2019 05:31, Swapnil M Mane wrote: > >> -- To form an ALC, there should be at least 2 committers or 1 ASF member. > > I don't agree with this. I don't think this is acceptable. The bar for > committershi

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

2019-12-05 Thread Daniel Ruggeri
On December 4, 2019 11:31:17 PM CST, Swapnil M Mane wrote: >Thank you all for your constant support and guidance in the ALC [1] >initiative. > >Thank you so much Rich, Daniel, Issac, Shane, and David for spending >time and energy to share your >thoughts, we highly appreciate it. All the points

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Thomas
Picking up on one point On 05/12/2019 05:31, Swapnil M Mane wrote: > -- To form an ALC, there should be at least 2 committers or 1 ASF member. I don't agree with this. I don't think this is acceptable. The bar for committership is too low to be used as a test for "Understands the Apache Way". To