Re: Lightning talks

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
can we do Penn & Teller routine? ;-) Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Sure... I'll need a co-host :) > >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you willing >> to be the Lightning

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Discussion on ComDev has cleared up the confusion. Jim, you and I are on point. There's a mail in your inbox and we will report through ComDev. Ross -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:50 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc:

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??) for us, to replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch, since David was best to know what exactly we needed and what the division of labor should be. If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to take this up

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Right, thanks David, I'm not sure where this confusion came from but it is cleared up now. Let me ping Jim and Roberto offlist and we'll have something concrete to get to Uli in the next report. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread jan i
On 12 March 2015 at 23:08, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects > apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very > long time - has that changed? > No it has not changed, but may

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread David Nalley
Infra doesn't use extras, or even administer it, so it seems strange for us to have a stake in decision making. We are happy to help facilitate the move (and hence our involvement thus far). On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > It seems t

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has that changed? Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apa

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread jan i
On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: > >> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several >> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also >> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). Bu

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a secon

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] Sent: Thursday, March 12,

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Christopher
I don't know the reasons for choosing SF, but I'd highly recommend putting serious consideration into GitHub. It's quite pleasant to work with, and although I'm not a part of the apache-extras, I think those who are would be quite satisfied with it (that's just my personal opinion, of course). --

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread David Nalley
It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made. --David On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Ahhh... I see no that's just

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Roger and Beth Whitcomb
I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that looked pretty good (to us)

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have shown interest ;-) I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. Ross -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM To: de

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ulrich Stärk
*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;) You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the impression you were actively part of a group driving this. Jim, do you have any updates on the current status? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Moving bo

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Moving board@ to BCC I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't me!) All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how actively but it is now a priority. I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ulrich Stärk
We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli

Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with Sour

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
Thanks, Ross. I'd like to explore this further with you. When do you leave the country? Chat soon, Sally [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity] - Reply message - From: "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" To: "dev@community.apache.org" Cc: "Sally

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I’m around until the end of next week Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:sallykhuda...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:15 PM To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); dev@community.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr...@apache.org

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
Fantastic --thank you, Suresh! I'll be in touch. -Sally [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity] - Reply message - From: "Suresh Marru" To: Cc: "Sally Khudairi" , "pr...@apache.org" Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Googl

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a good example of something that does work), accept we don’t have

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Suresh Marru
Hi Sally, I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f Please let me know if you would like

Fwd: [Osdc-list] Writers needed: conduct an interview for ApacheCon or OpenStack Live

2015-03-12 Thread Rich Bowen
FYI: From OpenSource.com - if you're interested in conducting interviews for OpenSource.com to promote ApacheCon, please get in touch with Rikki. Forwarded Message Subject: [Osdc-list] Writers needed: conduct an interview for ApacheCon or OpenStack Live Date: Wed, 11 Mar 201

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Perfect, thanks! Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote: > Got it. OK. > > Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that > work for you? > > Cheers, > Sally > > > -

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
Got it. OK. Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that work for you? Cheers,Sally  From: Ulrich Stärk To: Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org" Cc: "dev@community.apache.org" Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54 Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Hi Sally, yes, I'm the GSoC lead again. I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross will. There's nothing planned at the moment. Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote: > Thanks, Uli. > > I did post about it in our weekly news round-up. > > Hap

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
Thanks, Uli. I did post about it in our weekly news round-up. Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?  Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something special there? Cheers,Sally From: Ulrich Stärk To: "pr...@apache.org" ; Sally K

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ulrich Stärk
And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to get an announcement out this year. Cheers, Uli On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It > would be cool if we could > get this out asap. Is ther

Fwd: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Pierre Smits
FYI, As it was bounced. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM * Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Pierre Smits Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM Subject: Re: W

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Christopher
The gain, of course, is security... Because inactivity could indicate lack of control over the account, as previously indicated. Whether this is a significant enough risk to do something about is the question. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 12:24 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 3/12/2015 12:19 PM, Christoph

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/12/2015 12:19 PM, Christopher wrote: Perhaps we can create a procedure that *isn't* a giant hurdle? I don't see the gain from doing so. We've had no issues identified that this actual solves and it actively goes against my understanding of the pro-volunteer nature of the ASF. regards, K

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Christopher
Perhaps we can create a procedure that *isn't* a giant hurdle? On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 11:39 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > Including community dev as it seems appropriate. > > > > Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as > > describ

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > The solution as described by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory > project is a good one. The community mailing list is certainly a reasonable place to discuss this, but it's been discussed before. Note that If you're going to bring a discussion h

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: Including community dev as it seems appropriate. Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as described by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory project is a good one. If the PMC of project FOO wants to have done it differently,

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Leif Hedstrom
I'm with Pierre on this one. The ATS PMC has, as an example, several members and committers who no longer read or reply to emails. We honestly have no idea if they are even in control of their accounts. Cheers, -- Leif > On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > Hi Jake, >

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Jake, I am not talking about removing merit and karma. Such is persisted in many ways, think web pages, wiki pages, etc. I am talking about revoking permissions at tools levels. That doesn't mean deleting committers identities within the ASF. Ensuring that committers get the same permissions b

Re: Lightning talks

2015-03-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
Sure... I'll need a co-host :) > On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you willing to > be the Lightning Talks MC? (Wednesday evening, after Andy Terrel's keynote.) > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen >

Re: GitHub Pages

2015-03-12 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: > The github pages I've worked on have all been in Markdown, so they're > portable. > INdeed. And the Jekyll procedures I have talked about in this thread allow GH emulation at small cost. > > I also don't see any reason why we can't

Lightning talks

2015-03-12 Thread Rich Bowen
Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you willing to be the Lightning Talks MC? (Wednesday evening, after Andy Terrel's keynote.) -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: GitHub Pages

2015-03-12 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:55 AM, David Nalley wrote: > SSL > Specifically - apache.org sites are in https-everywhere. Those sites > can't provide SSL. > Very good point. > > None of the current TLP web sites are being served from Apache > hardware though - it's all VMs in 2-3 different cloud p

Re: GitHub Pages

2015-03-12 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all of > the site storage on apache servers. > > I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? An