Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread janI
On 5 January 2013 19:14, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > > It seems that the people who show up at these projects are, almost > > universally, responsible adults who are happy to comply. > > The ASF is always going to require an iCLA before gr

Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread janI
I personally like the idea of giving committer right on request. I do not like the fact that is has to be earned...we are volunteers not workers ! However I fully understand PMCs that are concerned about uncontrolled commits, so I see the "right on request" go hand in hand with a way of "removing

Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > It seems that the people who show up at these projects are, almost > universally, responsible adults who are happy to comply. The ASF is always going to require an iCLA before granting commit rights. That on its own poses a significant bar

Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread Benson Margulies
ICLAs are still an absolute requirement. So, imagine an Apache project with a policy like: Commit rights are granted on request to people with an Apache ICLA on file ... On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > > . > .

Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: . . . > > The question at hand here is, 'is this really a good idea? Would project > grow and thrive better if they set a lower bar to grant commit rights?' > How does the iCLA fit into any change? Personally I would not mind commit right

Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-05 Thread Benson Margulies
Over the last several weeks, there has been a length discussion amongst Apache Foundation members about how the Foundation manages access to source control, with a focus on Subversion. Anyone can read http://www.apache.org/dev/open-access-svn.html to see a summary of the central idea that started