On 3/3/11 9:24 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> That's an incredible idea Phil, thanks for your kind feedback!
> I already started preparing the proposal[1] and sill looking for
> Sponsor/Champions/Mentors, I like the idea of OGNL as Commons
> Component and we're waiting for feedbacks from Apache Struts
That's an incredible idea Phil, thanks for your kind feedback!
I already started preparing the proposal[1] and sill looking for
Sponsor/Champions/Mentors, I like the idea of OGNL as Commons
Component and we're waiting for feedbacks from Apache Struts, maybe
they're interested too, the we will have
On 3/3/11 6:06 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Thanks, it was :) I'm already on general@, I'll move the discussion there :)
> Simo
It looks to me like if what you guys want to do is incubate OGNL for
eventual home in Commons, you have the support you need. The
non-Commons ASF committers interested ca
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> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Lukasz Lenart
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> >> One more :-)
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> Subject: Re: OGNL as a part of Commons
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> Lukasz,
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Thanks, it was :) I'm already on general@, I'll move the discussion there :)
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On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Antonio Petrelli
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> 2011/3/3 Antonio Petrelli :
>> 2011/3/3 Simone Tripodi :
>>> Looks like Antonio is intere
2011/3/3 Lukasz Lenart :
> 2011/3/3 Simone Tripodi :
>> Anyone more? :)
>
> You can count on me, but I'm a Struts Committer.
I know it :-) for incubation, being an Apache commiter is a plus when
creating an incubation proposal.
I think you should ask the Struts dev mailing list to see if anyone
el
2011/3/3 Simone Tripodi :
> Anyone more? :)
You can count on me, but I'm a Struts Committer.
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2011/3/3 Antonio Petrelli :
> 2011/3/3 Simone Tripodi :
>> Looks like Antonio is interested and
>> it would be very nice if he joins.
>
> In fact I am
If it was not clear, I wish to join :-)
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2011/3/3 Simone Tripodi :
> Looks like Antonio is interested and
> it would be very nice if he joins.
In fact I am, Tiles also uses OGNL via a separate module.
Once I created a proposal for a subproject for Tiles but it failed:
https://cwiki.apache.org/TILES/dimensionsincubationproposal.html
Howev
I'm interested and would be more than glad on helping OGNL to join the
Incubator, count on me to prepare the proposal.
I know that this topic should maybe be discussed elsewhere, but before
putting an end to this thread I'd like to ask who's interested,
between Commons devs, on joining? Looks like
To be a TLP, you need a bare minimum of 3 active committers,
preferably 6. And you'd need to go via the incubator. Commons is an
easier fit as the committers can be shared with other commons
components, but that still depends on existing commons committers
saying that they'd be willing to help supp
2011/3/3 Antonio Petrelli :
> 2011/3/3 Lukasz Lenart :
>> Moving OGNL to Struts 2 could have one pitfall - it can be driven by
>> the project's needs. But that can be good as well ;-)
>
> Just a note FWIW. Spring WebFlow also uses OGNL.
So, OGNL as a TPL project would be the best.
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2011/3/3 Lukasz Lenart :
> Moving OGNL to Struts 2 could have one pitfall - it can be driven by
> the project's needs. But that can be good as well ;-)
Just a note FWIW. Spring WebFlow also uses OGNL.
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Moving OGNL to Struts 2 could have one pitfall - it can be driven by
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Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> Based on what I know of OGNL, it is/was reasonably well used. Trying
> to merge it into another project doesn't help those existing users.
>
> The question is what are the author(s) of OGNL looking for? A home for
> maintainance? The Apache brand? To reinvigorate it? T
2011/3/1 Stephen Colebourne :
> Based on what I know of OGNL, it is/was reasonably well used. Trying
> to merge it into another project doesn't help those existing users.
Yep, that's true
> The question is what are the author(s) of OGNL looking for? A home for
> maintainance? The Apache brand? To
@Stephen: OGNL is currently ownerless, as Lukasz reported, and he's
the only one maintainer on github. Original authors agreed on donating
the to the ASF, I suppose to provide OGNL community the
support/maintainance that deserves. Someone else didn't agree already
on taking in consideration yet ano
Struts 2 is a big consumer of OGNL. The Struts community already consumed
XWork's IP and now own it. Aren't both of those projects from OpenSymphony?
If so, I would say it should go over to Struts.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> Based on what I know of OGNL, it is/wa
Based on what I know of OGNL, it is/was reasonably well used. Trying
to merge it into another project doesn't help those existing users.
The question is what are the author(s) of OGNL looking for? A home for
maintainance? The Apache brand? To reinvigorate it? The latter fits
with a merger into oth
Hi Henri,
it would be fine for me, I initially suggested BeanUtils because
already support a similar feature[1], but JEXL2 would work as well.
Thanks for your feedbacks, looking forward to collect enough thoughts
to call for a vote :)
Simo
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Howdy;
I looked at OGNL a while ago and can't fully remember why I ended up using
JEXL (probably because it seemed simpler). Anyway, OGNL seems very powerful
and expressive.
What about trying to merge OGNL & JEXL2 (instead of BeanUtils)? I'm pretty
sure the core JEXL2 features (introspector - metho
>From Commons HP[1] "The Commons is an Apache project focused on all
aspects of reusable Java components" here we use to speak about Math,
Digester, BeanUtils, ... as components and not projects, there are no
exceptions you mentioned.
Moreover, since EL[2] and JXPATH[3] found their home here at co
2011/3/1 Antonio Petrelli :
> There is another problem: is OpenSymphony willing to donate the code to
> Apache?
> It's not only a problem of "forking", because the entire copyright
> will pass to Apache, at least for the donated code as it is (the
> copyright will remain to OpenSymphony until the
2011/3/1 Antonio Petrelli :
> 2010/12/13 Lukasz Lenart :
>> I want to ask you all, is it possible to include OGNL
>> (https://github.com/jkuhnert/ognl , http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/
>> ) into Commons project?
>
> Personally I would like to see it as a TLP.
> AFAIK Apache foundation likes to se
2010/12/13 Lukasz Lenart :
> I want to ask you all, is it possible to include OGNL
> (https://github.com/jkuhnert/ognl , http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/
> ) into Commons project?
Personally I would like to see it as a TLP.
AFAIK Apache foundation likes to see one project for one piece of
softwar
Hi all guys,
I personally like the proposal and think that OGNL is a nice piece of
software that Commons could only benefit if it will join.
As I previously expressed, IMHO OGNL could be merged to BeanUtils that
already supports the same features, but in a less sophisticated way;
BeanUtils could on
Hi,
So, where I should start ?
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Hi all guys,
just a small idea about it: BeanUtils is already maintaining something
similar[1] to OGNL, that BTW is more sophisticated, so I propose to
evaluate OGNL be accepted as part of BeanUtils, it should be a very
good contribution that would improve the commons component.
WDYT?
Simo
[1] htt
2010/12/15 Jörg Schaible :
> What happened to OpenSymphony that you cannot use their infrastructure
> anymore?
I don't know, there was some rumor about domain owners or so. Also
other projects were moved out from OpenSymphony: WebWork became Struts
2, XWork was moved to ASF and it's a part of Stru
Hi Lukasz,
Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to ask you all, is it possible to include OGNL
> (https://github.com/jkuhnert/ognl , http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/
> ) into Commons project?
What happened to OpenSymphony that you cannot use their infrastructure
anymore?
- Jörg
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+1.
Just like to point out that duplication of featureset is not an issue
in Commons.
Hen
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Lukasz Lenart
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to ask you all, is it possible to include OGNL
> (https://github.com/jkuhnert/ognl , http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/
> ) into C
2010/12/14 sebb :
> So does it offer anything that JEXL does not?
I think no, it looks like JEXL2 is even much better than OGNL. I don't
know JEXL2 so deep, but with OGNL you can create objects directly ("o
= new Object()") and you can call methods with parameters
("foo.doit(o)").
Kind regards
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On 14 December 2010 06:38, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> 2010/12/13 sebb :
>>> OGNL is an Expression Language like UEL, it has some nice features
>>> like calling statics or using constructors. It's used internally by
>>> Struts 2 to evaluate user expressions and not only in JSP but in any
>>> other plac
2010/12/13 sebb :
>> OGNL is an Expression Language like UEL, it has some nice features
>> like calling statics or using constructors. It's used internally by
>> Struts 2 to evaluate user expressions and not only in JSP but in any
>> other place.
>
> In which case it seems to be similar to Commons
On 13 December 2010 20:57, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> 2010/12/13 Gary Gregory :
>> I am wondering how OGNL relates to Commons JXPath
>> http://commons.apache.org/jxpath/
>>
>> When would you use one vs. the other?
>
> OGNL is an Expression Language like UEL, it has some nice features
> like calling s
2010/12/13 Gary Gregory :
> I am wondering how OGNL relates to Commons JXPath
> http://commons.apache.org/jxpath/
>
> When would you use one vs. the other?
OGNL is an Expression Language like UEL, it has some nice features
like calling statics or using constructors. It's used internally by
Struts
I am wondering how OGNL relates to Commons JXPath
http://commons.apache.org/jxpath/
When would you use one vs. the other?
I've thought about using JXPath to replace our custom in-house equivalent but
never considered OGNL.
Gary
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