Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
Torsten Curdt wrote: >>> I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required >>> of all the Incubator projects, but pretty widely integrated (at least in >>> Java land) outside of the Incubator as a tool to help check ASF >>> policies. To me, that's a big scope and an important

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < > chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >> I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required of >> all the Incubator projects, but pretty widely integra

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Torsten Curdt
>> I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required of >> all the Incubator projects, but pretty widely integrated (at least in Java >> land) outside of the Incubator as a tool to help check ASF policies. To me, >> that's a big scope and an important community, and just based

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-11 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required of > all the Incubator projects, but pretty widely integrated (at least in Java > land) outside of the Incubator as a tool to

RE: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:bode...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 07:00 > To: gene...@incubator.apache.org; rat-...@incubator.apache.org; > dev@commons.apache.org > Subject: Re: Future of RAT > > On 2010-08-10, Mattma

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > WDYT? I agree with others who've said RAT should consider going TLP. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-m

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:03 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Hi Stefan, However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not have a RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing anyone on the team that would be able to? Jochen has sure be joking here. Th

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > If > there will ever be a migration to a new license like ASL 3 or a > another change of the header policy, then RAT will likely play a very > important part in the process. There's also an SPDX spec coming to describe the licensing in pro

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 09:58, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > wrote: > >> However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not have >> a RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing anyone on >> the team that wou

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not have a > RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing anyone on the > team that would be able to? Hen files them all the time (well he used

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Stefan, >> However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not >> have a RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing >> anyone on the team that would be able to? > > Jochen has sure be joking here. The team list he pointed at contains at > least two curren

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2010-08-10, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not > have a RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and not knowing > anyone on the team that would be able to? Jochen has sure be joking here. The team list he pointed at c

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Jochen, First off, congrats on even sending this email. I've often wondered by RAT is still lingering in the Incubator when it's been pretty much widely used for a long time, has a functional community, and keeps plugging forward with its mission. So, first off, +1 to getting out of the Incu

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Kevan Miller
On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > The question is: What's the target? RAT is way too small for an > independent project. And I cannot imagine anybody of the current > committers writing board reports. To me, a Rat TLP is no option. So we > have the second possibility: Put it u

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > Hi, > > having just published a release of Apache RAT with the "-incubating" > label, I'd though it is time to discuss the future of RAT. RAT is an > incubator project since 18 months. It is not an overly busy project: > The occasional fea

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Forgot one possible issue: Currently, RAT has its own mailing lists, which would be unusual for Commons. My personal choice would be to leave this as it is, but that's of course also subject to discussion. Jochen On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > Hi, > > having just pub