Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-27 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > > There is already an Apache project to "avoid shared memory to make > > application that exploit parallelism easier". That is Hadoop > (especially > > with Pig). > > Certainly Hadoop has a place -- it implements a scatter/gather > framewo

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-27 Thread Russel Winder
Ted, On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 12:39 -0800, Ted Dunning wrote: > I know that this isn't where you are going with your comment, but I think it > actually meets the spirit of what you are trying to do, just in a more > revolutionary way than you specify. Yes and no, but that is a debate for elsewhere

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-25 Thread P.H.Welch
Hi Russel, > At the heart of all the problems is shared memory. Perhaps it is worth > challenging the use of shared memory models for application programming; > perhaps it is worth building new APIs that avoid shared memory in order > to make application that exploit parallelism easier for the a

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-25 Thread Oliver Heger
10:36 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I would look

RE: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Gary Gregory
24, 2009 10:36 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ted Dunning
I know that this isn't where you are going with your comment, but I think it actually meets the spirit of what you are trying to do, just in a more revolutionary way than you specify. There is already an Apache project to "avoid shared memory to make application that exploit parallelism easier".

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ralph Goers
I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I would look for ways to abstract things so that what the application programmers deal with are very abstra

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ralph Goers
I think this is a good idea, but it obviously has to be on a new branch since 1.5 would be the minimum version. I also think a lot of the existing classes should be revisited in light of what is now available in the JDK. On Jan 24, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Oliver Heger wrote: Since Java 1.5 ther

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 17:37 +0100, Oliver Heger wrote: > Since Java 1.5 there is a lot of functionality in the area of thread > synchronization and multi-threaded programming. However, there are > certainly still missing features or APIs that could be improved or made > easier to use. > > How a