Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2009-01-08, Antonio wrote: > Well... who is to say that we all didn't steal the code from our > employers and commit it? Everyone of us claimed it when we signed the CLA before getting commit access (well, people as old as me may have committed stuff before signing the CLA, but it applied to

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Henri Yandell
This is a dead end - we don't ask JUnit to sign anything, we don't ask Linux kernel hackers just to be users. Using under license and redistributing is something we do all over the place and just because this is our license (but not our code) doesn't change anything. Hen On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread James Carman
I'm not saying they need to prove it, but if we have a code grant on hand (which states that they have the rights to license/donate the code I would assume), then we have a bit more of a paper trail. But, if you insist that it's not necessary, I trust you. You seem to have a better grasp on this

RE: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Thomas
> -Original Message- > > No, not everyone has the right to license their code with the Apache > License. Wrong. Anyone can license *their* code any way they wish. If they work for a company and their contract states that > the company owns anything they create under their employ, then th

RE: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com] > Sent: 08 January 2009 15:42 > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects > > I am by no means an expert on licenses and stuff, but it would

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Antonio
2009/1/8 James Carman : > No, not everyone has the right to license their code with the Apache > License. If they work for a company and their contract states that > the company owns anything they create under their employ, then they do > not own it. You're right... it's so sad... > Also, who i

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Antonio
2009/1/8 Antonio : > 2009/1/8 James Carman : >> I am by no means an expert on licenses and stuff, but it would seem to >> me that if the authors are willing to sign a code grant, then why not >> let them do it? > > Because they want to be mentioned! With the software grant they > transfer the right

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread James Carman
No, not everyone has the right to license their code with the Apache License. If they work for a company and their contract states that the company owns anything they create under their employ, then they do not own it. Also, who is to say that they didn't steal the code from some codebase (perhap

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Antonio
2009/1/8 James Carman : > I am by no means an expert on licenses and stuff, but it would seem to > me that if the authors are willing to sign a code grant, then why not > let them do it? Because they want to be mentioned! With the software grant they transfer the rights to the foundation, they won

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Antonio
2009/1/8 Mark Thomas : >> -Original Message- >> From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com] >> Sent: 08 January 2009 15:16 >> To: Commons Developers List >> Subject: Re: [compress] Including ASL Code from other projects >> >> My only point is that we don't know for sure that thes

Re: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread James Carman
I am by no means an expert on licenses and stuff, but it would seem to me that if the authors are willing to sign a code grant, then why not let them do it? On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com]

RE: [compress] Including AL Code from other projects

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com] > Sent: 08 January 2009 15:16 > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [compress] Including ASL Code from other projects > > My only point is that we don't know for sure that these folks are > *allowed* to li