Re: [math] TLP next steps

2016-01-24 Thread Phil Steitz
I just kicked off the PMC membership recruiting thread. I think there are three more immediate things we need to do: 0) decide on a name for the new project 1) agree on initial PMC chair 2) draft a board resolution to form the new project Post-2), there will be lots of fun to have - scm, web sit

Re: [math] TLP next steps

2016-01-20 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2016-01-20 14:40 GMT+01:00 Phil Steitz : > I think the next logical step is to determine who the members of the > new PMC and the new PMC chair will be. That information will need > to go in a Board resolution to actually form the new TLP. I suggest > that we start by asking for PMC volunteers a

[math] TLP next steps

2016-01-20 Thread Phil Steitz
I think the next logical step is to determine who the members of the new PMC and the new PMC chair will be. That information will need to go in a Board resolution to actually form the new TLP. I suggest that we start by asking for PMC volunteers among the Commons Committers. Are others OK with t

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-15 Thread James Carman
Oh, I suppose you're right :) For some reason, I had it in my mind that he called a vote and not just a discussion. My bad. On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:41 AM Gary Gregory wrote: > I did not know this was an official vote thread ;-) in any case, I do not > feel strongly for or against it. > > Ga

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-15 Thread Gary Gregory
I did not know this was an official vote thread ;-) in any case, I do not feel strongly for or against it. Gary On Jan 15, 2016 5:21 AM, "James Carman" wrote: > You didn't really register a vote here, Gary. I take it this is a -1 > against moving TLP? > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:24 PM Gary Gr

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-15 Thread James Carman
You didn't really register a vote here, Gary. I take it this is a -1 against moving TLP? On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:24 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects in > Commons, that's not an issue IMO, just good project design. > > My main worr

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-15 Thread James Carman
So, do we count this as a +1 for Math to go TLP? On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:04 PM Ole Ersoy wrote: > I love the idea. I also think commons will get a lot more eye balls if it > gets all the repositories on github and enables the watch button as well as > github issues. > > Cheers, > Ole > > On 0

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-15 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level > project at the ASF. This has been proposed before, and I have > always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now > convinced that it is a good step for us to

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-14 Thread Henri Yandell
"Luc Maisonobe" > An: "Commons Developers List" > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Januar 2016 11:58:47 > Betreff: Re: [math] TLP > > Hi Phil, > > Le 14/01/2016 01:50, Phil Steitz a écrit : > > I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top leve

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-14 Thread Siegfried Göschl
Hi folks, +1 for going TLP (non-binding) And the luck for Luc :-) Siegfried Goeschl - Ursprüngliche Mail - Von: "Luc Maisonobe" An: "Commons Developers List" Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Januar 2016 11:58:47 Betreff: Re: [math] TLP Hi Phil, Le 14/01/2016 01:50,

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-14 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Hi Phil, Le 14/01/2016 01:50, Phil Steitz a écrit : > I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level > project at the ASF. This has been proposed before, and I have > always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now > convinced that it is a good step for us to t

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread Ole Ersoy
... and it looks like watch notifications for these are now enabled. Issues are still going through JIRA though. Cheers, Ole On 01/13/2016 08:16 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Commons projects that use Git like Math and Lang are already mirrored on GitHub, See: https://github.com/apache/commons-ma

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Commons projects that use Git like Math and Lang are already mirrored on GitHub, See: https://github.com/apache/commons-math https://github.com/apache/commons-lang Gary On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Ole Ersoy wrote: > I love the idea. I also think commons will get a lot more eye balls if

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread Ole Ersoy
I love the idea. I also think commons will get a lot more eye balls if it gets all the repositories on github and enables the watch button as well as github issues. Cheers, Ole On 01/13/2016 07:24 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread Gary Gregory
I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects in Commons, that's not an issue IMO, just good project design. My main worry is more on the overall health of Commons or perception that [math] is "leaving" Commons, the more eyeballs on Commons the better. Gary On Wed, Jan 1

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread James Carman
+1 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:50 PM Phil Steitz wrote: > I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level > project at the ASF. This has been proposed before, and I have > always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now > convinced that it is a good step for us t

[math] TLP

2016-01-13 Thread Phil Steitz
I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level project at the ASF. This has been proposed before, and I have always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now convinced that it is a good step for us to take for the following reasons: 0) We have several committers

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-30 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 08/27/2013 08:23 PM, Oliver Heger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 15:57, schrieb Phil Steitz: >> On 8/27/13 6:31 AM, James Carman wrote: >>> It was mentioned the other day, so I thought I would propose a formal >>> discussion. Is it time to let [math] "leave the nest"? I would doubt >>> there are very

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-29 Thread Rodion Efremov
Don't you can conclude that matter, shut the f*** up, and enjoy the last days of summer? ;) --- TIA, Rodion James Carman писал 29.08.2013 05:46 PM: To be clear, I don't really care one way or the other. I just thought it was probably good to have a formal discussion on the matter. I'm also

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-29 Thread James Carman
To be clear, I don't really care one way or the other. I just thought it was probably good to have a formal discussion on the matter. I'm also a math geek, so I like reading the emails sometimes (sometimes they're way over my head too). It takes me back to my college days. :) I would probably s

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-29 Thread Gilles
Hello. James, it's good that you bring this up here. This is something I've been thinking about lately. I agree that the mathematical knowledge that seems to be necessary to dig into [MATH] goes beyond what you learn in Computer Science courses at university. I usually skip discussions abo

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-29 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi, James, it's good that you bring this up here. This is something I've been thinking about lately. I agree that the mathematical knowledge that seems to be necessary to dig into [MATH] goes beyond what you learn in Computer Science courses at university. I usually skip discussions about math bu

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 27/08/2013 20:23, Oliver Heger a écrit : > Am 27.08.2013 15:57, schrieb Phil Steitz: >> On 8/27/13 6:31 AM, James Carman wrote: >>> It was mentioned the other day, so I thought I would propose a formal >>> discussion. Is it time to let [math] "leave the nest"? I would doubt >>> there are very

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-27 Thread Oliver Heger
Am 27.08.2013 15:57, schrieb Phil Steitz: > On 8/27/13 6:31 AM, James Carman wrote: >> It was mentioned the other day, so I thought I would propose a formal >> discussion. Is it time to let [math] "leave the nest"? I would doubt >> there are very many of us qualified to work on such a library her

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-27 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/27/13 6:31 AM, James Carman wrote: > It was mentioned the other day, so I thought I would propose a formal > discussion. Is it time to let [math] "leave the nest"? I would doubt > there are very many of us qualified to work on such a library here in > Commons. I have a degree in Mathematics

Re: [DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-27 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi All: I'm only a casual [math] user (we use [math] at work for some *very* simple things), but I hope that we, the wider [commons] community, has been beneficial in sharing expertise in Java, design, and other non-mathematics but programming related issues. That whole thread about exceptions a w

[DISCUSS] Math TLP...

2013-08-27 Thread James Carman
It was mentioned the other day, so I thought I would propose a formal discussion. Is it time to let [math] "leave the nest"? I would doubt there are very many of us qualified to work on such a library here in Commons. I have a degree in Mathematics, but I haven't used the advanced math in such a

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math] for the last months belong to

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Edward J. Yoon
That's a very good idea IMO. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math]

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Luc Maisonobe wrote: Rahul Akolkar a écrit : On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: (apologies for jumping in half way through) luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes that have been

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Rahul Akolkar a écrit : > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: >> (apologies for jumping in half way through) >> >> luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >>> that have been done on >>> [

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math] for the last months belong to

[math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
(apologies for jumping in half way through) luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: > Hello, > > Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes > that have been done on > [math] for the last months belong to the major changes with large > incompatibilities with previous version