Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-27 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > > There is already an Apache project to "avoid shared memory to make > > application that exploit parallelism easier". That is Hadoop > (especially > > with Pig). > > Certainly Hadoop has a place -- it implements a scatter/gather > framewo

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-27 Thread Russel Winder
Ted, On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 12:39 -0800, Ted Dunning wrote: > I know that this isn't where you are going with your comment, but I think it > actually meets the spirit of what you are trying to do, just in a more > revolutionary way than you specify. Yes and no, but that is a debate for elsewhere

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-25 Thread P.H.Welch
Hi Russel, > At the heart of all the problems is shared memory. Perhaps it is worth > challenging the use of shared memory models for application programming; > perhaps it is worth building new APIs that avoid shared memory in order > to make application that exploit parallelism easier for the a

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-25 Thread Oliver Heger
10:36 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I would look

RE: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Gary Gregory
24, 2009 10:36 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ted Dunning
I know that this isn't where you are going with your comment, but I think it actually meets the spirit of what you are trying to do, just in a more revolutionary way than you specify. There is already an Apache project to "avoid shared memory to make application that exploit parallelism easier".

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ralph Goers
I guess I understand the thinking here, but not within the context of commons lang. It sounds like you might want to start a new sandbox project for this. However, if I was doing this I would look for ways to abstract things so that what the application programmers deal with are very abstra

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Ralph Goers
I think this is a good idea, but it obviously has to be on a new branch since 1.5 would be the minimum version. I also think a lot of the existing classes should be revisited in light of what is now available in the JDK. On Jan 24, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Oliver Heger wrote: Since Java 1.5 ther

Re: [lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 17:37 +0100, Oliver Heger wrote: > Since Java 1.5 there is a lot of functionality in the area of thread > synchronization and multi-threaded programming. However, there are > certainly still missing features or APIs that could be improved or made > easier to use. > > How a

[lang] Concurrency utils for JDK 1.5+ version

2009-01-24 Thread Oliver Heger
Since Java 1.5 there is a lot of functionality in the area of thread synchronization and multi-threaded programming. However, there are certainly still missing features or APIs that could be improved or made easier to use. How about adding such features to an upcoming version of Commons Lang?