Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 06/03/2012 15:01, Ralph Goers a écrit : > I don't recall if a board report is required or not, but I would send one > even if it isn't required. Obviously, the Solr team doesn't understand what > they have done. However, if Solr considers CSV "good enough" to use in their > application then

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread sebb
On 6 March 2012 14:33, Torsten Curdt wrote: > Added my thought to this issue. MIght be better than here where they > are not reading. > Let's hope they come around. I think we should consider changing the package name/Maven id for the first official release of CSV. This would force end-users (in

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Torsten Curdt
Added my thought to this issue. MIght be better than here where they are not reading. Let's hope they come around. cheers, Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Ralph Goers
I don't recall if a board report is required or not, but I would send one even if it isn't required. Obviously, the Solr team doesn't understand what they have done. However, if Solr considers CSV "good enough" to use in their application then it is definitely time to do a release of CSV. Ralp

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
The Solr team isn't listening, the issue was closed as "Won't Fix", *sighs*... https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3204 Emmanuel Bourg Le 06/03/2012 02:12, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : Hi, This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. I just noticed that Solr for

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread markt
Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >Le 06/03/2012 10:26, ma...@apache.org a écrit : > >> The right way for solr to do this would be to package rename csv the >same way Tomcat does for encode. > >Yes that's what I suggested. How do you do this in Tomcat? Did you copy > >and rename the packages manually, or do

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Emmanuel, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 06/03/2012 10:26, ma...@apache.org a écrit : > >> The right way for solr to do this would be to package rename csv the same >> way Tomcat does for encode. > > Yes that's what I suggested. How do you do this in Tomcat? Did you copy > and rename the package

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 06/03/2012 10:26, ma...@apache.org a écrit : The right way for solr to do this would be to package rename csv the same way Tomcat does for encode. Yes that's what I suggested. How do you do this in Tomcat? Did you copy and rename the packages manually, or do you have a tool that automates

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Emmanuel, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 06/03/2012 08:52, Jörg Schaible a écrit : > >> All that we can do now is to put a big red warning at commons-cvs >> homepage: >> >> == %< == >> CAUTION: If you use Apache Solr you run implicitly an incompatible >> version of commons-csv th

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread markt
ma...@apache.org wrote: >Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > >>Le 06/03/2012 08:52, Jörg Schaible a écrit : >> >>> All that we can do now is to put a big red warning at commons-cvs >>homepage: >>> >>> == %< == >>> CAUTION: If you use Apache Solr you run implicitly an incompatible >>version >

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread markt
Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >Le 06/03/2012 08:52, Jörg Schaible a écrit : > >> All that we can do now is to put a big red warning at commons-cvs >homepage: >> >> == %< == >> CAUTION: If you use Apache Solr you run implicitly an incompatible >version >> of commons-csv that may affect yo

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread markt
Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >Hi, > >This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. >I >just noticed that Solr forked Commons CSV and released it as a separate > >artifact, but kept the org.apache.commons.csv package unchanged :( > >http://www.jarvana.com/jarvana/inspect/org/apa

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 06/03/2012 08:52, Jörg Schaible a écrit : All that we can do now is to put a big red warning at commons-cvs homepage: == %< == CAUTION: If you use Apache Solr you run implicitly an incompatible version of commons-csv that may affect your application. We have to refuse any he

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Yonik, The issue is not the "fork", that's perfectly fine and your help is really appreciated. The issue is that it was released without renaming the package, leading to classpath conflicts when Commons CSV is released officially. I opened an issue for Solr: https://issues.apache.org/jir

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread Jörg Schaible
Yonik Seeley wrote: > Not sure I understand the use of "forked" here. > > Solr needed CSV handing. Rather than just roll our own, I looked at > commons-csv and put a *lot* of time and effort into improving it. I > didn't have time to follow through with a complete release of > commons-csv, so w

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread Yonik Seeley
Not sure I understand the use of "forked" here. Solr needed CSV handing. Rather than just roll our own, I looked at commons-csv and put a *lot* of time and effort into improving it. I didn't have time to follow through with a complete release of commons-csv, so we just included a snapsot in Solr

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread sebb
On 6 March 2012 01:50, sebb wrote: > On 6 March 2012 01:12, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. I >> just noticed that Solr forked Commons CSV and released it as a separate >> artifact, but kept the org.apache.commons.csv packa

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 06/03/2012 02:50, sebb a écrit : Are you sure? I think so, but I wish I'm wrong. Look into the jar, the package is org.apache.commons.csv and the pom.xml file included in META-INF is exactly the one of Commons CSV, the groupId/artifactId isn't even changed. http://repo1.maven.org/maven2

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread sebb
On 6 March 2012 01:12, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi, > > This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. I > just noticed that Solr forked Commons CSV and released it as a separate > artifact, but kept the org.apache.commons.csv package unchanged :( Are you sure? Maven Centr

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread Gary Gregory
The only thing to do is to release [csv] out of the sandbox, when ready, and let Solr clean up its own mess. Gary On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:23 PM, James Carman wrote: > This is very bothersome, with all the trouble we go through to maintain > compatibility. Frustrating indeed. > On Mar 5, 2012 8

Re: [csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread James Carman
This is very bothersome, with all the trouble we go through to maintain compatibility. Frustrating indeed. On Mar 5, 2012 8:13 PM, "Emmanuel Bourg" wrote: > Hi, > > This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. I > just noticed that Solr forked Commons CSV and released i

[csv] Commons CSV 3.5 released!

2012-03-05 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi, This is actually a bad joke for all of us binary compatibility lovers. I just noticed that Solr forked Commons CSV and released it as a separate artifact, but kept the org.apache.commons.csv package unchanged :( http://www.jarvana.com/jarvana/inspect/org/apache/solr/solr-commons-csv/3.5.0