OK - sorry for misunderstanding you. It appears we are in agreement and my use
of "majority" in that sentence is incorrect. The wording I quoted from the
httpd page is much clearer (at least 3 +1 votes and no vetoes).
Ralph
On Oct 13, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> I comp
On 10/13/13 3:51 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> Majority votes at ASF almost never require a majority of all possible
> voters. Almost always the (plus > 3 && plus > minus) convention is used.
>
> As you can find in innumerable threads as well, consensus among the
> discussion participants is
Ralph,
I completely agree that this vote wasn't consensus.
But where you say
As I understand this, consensus means that a majority must vote and there
> must not be any -1 votes among those who voted.
I disagree. The only quorum typically required for ASF consensus votes is
3 +1's, not a majo
Please re-read my message. James stated " We definitely have enough people
voting to be considered a consensus (consensus != unanimous)." My point was to
quote what Roy posted a few days ago that said while consensus isn't unanimous
it also isn't the simple majority vote either, so to state tha
James,
You succeeded in creating a second thread.
It is the first thread that had a reverted subject line. Ironically, it
was one of your posts that reverted the subject line ... likely related to
the confusion you had in the first place with gmail.
Check the archives. They show the subject li
There were two threads. As I explained, the first two DISCUSSION/VOTE
threads were getting mingled together in gmail, so I started another thread
for the VOTE hoping to avoid confusion (apparently I failed in that).
On Sunday, October 13, 2013, Ted Dunning wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> Majority votes at
Ralph,
Majority votes at ASF almost never require a majority of all possible
voters. Almost always the (plus > 3 && plus > minus) convention is used.
As you can find in innumerable threads as well, consensus among the
discussion participants is preferable for big changes (like moving to git).
C
Actually, if you read Roy's post from a few days ago on Incubator General you
will find that consensus is != to majority or unanimity. See
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201310.mbox/ajax/%3CC2FDB244-459D-4EC4-954A-7A7F6C4B179B%40gbiv.com%3E
from which I quote below:
