On 09/25/2015 06:55 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:41:10 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 06:01 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hi Luc,
I gave this s
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 22:07:58 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Why should the instance throwing the exception hold a field with the
information?
Separation of concerns: optimizer does the computation,
then the exception holds what's needed for a full report of the
failure.
I would see what makes sense on
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:41:10 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 06:01 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hi Luc,
I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have
Why should the instance throwing the exception hold a field with the
information?
Separation of concerns: optimizer does the computation,
then the exception holds what's needed for a full report of the failure.
I would see what makes sense on on case by case basis. For example if the
Observer
On 09/24/2015 06:01 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hi Luc,
I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to
soon, even though you are absolutely r
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 18:01:13 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 04:05 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote:
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a d
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hi Luc,
I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to
soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception
does
in ter
On 09/24/2015 04:05 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote:
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hi Luc,
I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to
soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does
in terms bubbling execution to a point where it stops or we
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote:
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We
are so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
> Hi Luc,
>
> I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to
> soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does
> in terms bubbling execution to a point where it stops or we handle it.
>
> Suppose we have an Opti
Hi Luc,
I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to soon, even
though you are absolutely right about what an exception does in terms bubbling
execution to a point where it stops or we handle it.
Suppose we have an Optimizer and an Optimizer observer. The optimizer will
On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote:
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at
this it would be a shame. No one in its right mind would copy or reuse this
stuff. It is f
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are
so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its right mind would
copy or reuse this stuff. It is for internal use only and we don't
even
Hi Gilles,
Le 2015-09-23 23:00, Gilles a écrit :
[...]
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic.
We are so bad at this
The crux is that the project's team is in effect not _interested_
in this. [And I admit that I had not understood it for a long
time (hence the temptati
On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its right mind would copy or reuse this stuff. It is for internal use only and we don't even have the resources to manage it by ourselves
[...]
CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic.
We are so bad at this
The crux is that the project's team is in effect not _interested_
in this. [And I admit that I had not understood it for a long
time (hence the temptation to convince that it was important for
*some* peo
Le 23/09/2015 19:20, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
> HI Luc,
Hi Ole,
>
> On 09/23/2015 03:02 AM, luc wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le 2015-09-22 02:55, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
>>> Hola,
>>>
>>> On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
> On 09/20/2
Luc,
Just wanted to mention one more thing (On top of the other 325 :) ). The
callback design does not bubble exceptions, but we can still get the same
effect, and do better. For the app we would define a global error handler and
make that handler part of each callback. So if are using:
Foo
HI Luc,
On 09/23/2015 03:02 AM, luc wrote:
Hi,
Le 2015-09-22 02:55, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hola,
On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted t
Hello Luc.
I obviously agree with your main conclusion in that exceptions are
still
a better alternative to what (we think) we understood from Ole's
proposal.
However I don't agree about what is a "mess" on the "exception front"
and what is not, and which part of the library is more to blame
Hi,
Le 2015-09-22 02:55, Ole Ersoy a écrit :
Hola,
On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimi
One more thing - This is separate from the other stuff. The LMOptimizer has
several configuration properties, with corresponding getters and a
corresponding with() API. It would be good if these existed on their own class
that used Lombok (https://projectlombok.org/) to generate (Byte code) t
On 09/22/2015 06:46 AM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:55:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Hola,
On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wa
Hi.
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:55:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Hola,
On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSq
Hola,
On 09/21/2015 04:15 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimizer (Possibly
General Optimizer) design. For e
Hi.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:04:08 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimizer (Possibly
General Optimizer) design. For example with the
LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer we
On 09/20/2015 05:51 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimizer (Possibly
General Optimizer) design. For example with the
LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer we would do:
`LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer.optimize(Optimiza
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:12:49 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote:
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimizer (Possibly
General Optimizer) design. For example with the
LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer we would do:
`LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer.optimize(OptimizationContext c);`
Rough optimize() outlin
Wanted to float some ideas for the LeastSquaresOptimizer (Possibly General
Optimizer) design. For example with the LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer we would
do:
`LevenbergMarquardtOptimizer.optimize(OptimizationContext c);`
Rough optimize() outline:
public static void optimise() {
//perform the opt
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