Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Gilles
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:30:13 -0400, Rob Tompkins wrote: On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Gilles wrote: Hello. On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:58:40 +0200, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: That depends. If some packages of t

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Gilles
Hello. On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:52:40 +0200, Eric Barnhill wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Gilles wrote: Mostly yes, but some utilities are used by packages that would be good components (e.g. "o.a.c.m.distribution"). For example, an efficient and robust root solver ("BrentSolver").

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 06/21/2016 08:07 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: Maybe. That could depend on whether there is anyone at Commons that would want to participate in the component. Another option is to follow the pattern used by httpclient. I believe they took

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Gilles wrote: > > Hello. > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:58:40 +0200, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Jochen, >> >> Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible >>> wrote: >>> That depends. If some packages of the current CM should

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> Maybe. That could depend on whether there is anyone at Commons that would >> want to participate in the component. Another option is to follow the >> pattern used by httpclient. I believe they took th

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Gilles
Hello. On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:58:40 +0200, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: That depends. If some packages of the current CM should stay as own component in Commons, these packages have to be identified. Whoever

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Eric Barnhill
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Gilles wrote: > Mostly yes, but some utilities are used by packages that would > be good components (e.g. "o.a.c.m.distribution"). For example, > an efficient and robust root solver ("BrentSolver"). > The analysis library is admirably integrated. For example,

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Maybe. That could depend on whether there is anyone at Commons that would > want to participate in the component. Another option is to follow the pattern > used by httpclient. I believe they took the last version of commons > httpclient and

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:58 AM, Jörg Schaible > wrote: > > Hi Jochen, > > Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible >> wrote: >> >>> That depends. If some packages of the current CM should stay as own >>> component in Commons, these packages have to be ident

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible > wrote: > >> That depends. If some packages of the current CM should stay as own >> component in Commons, these packages have to be identified. > > Whoever would support such a lunacy? Either CM moves entirely,

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Eric Barnhill wrote: > I think I made a respectable case for such a split in my thread titled > apache,commons,math . Perhaps you could identify some points in that post > that you disagree with? That's what others did. As I wrote: I am trying to concentrate effor

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Eric Barnhill
I think I made a respectable case for such a split in my thread titled apache,commons,math . Perhaps you could identify some points in that post that you disagree with? That's what others did. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > > Whoever would support such a lunacy? Eith

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > That depends. If some packages of the current CM should stay as own > component in Commons, these packages have to be identified. Whoever would support such a lunacy? Either CM moves entirely, or not at all. Jochen -- The next time you

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:31:23 +0200, Eric Barnhill wrote: >>> >>> Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons >>> component, and more sophisticated spin-out components, around which we >>> might develop a new Math TLP or incubator proj

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:31:23 +0200, Eric Barnhill wrote: >> >> Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons >> component, and more sophisticated spin-out components, around which we >> might develop a new Math TLP or incubator project in which components of >> the project

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Eric and Gilles, Gilles wrote: [snip] > Here is a list of usage count of CM packages (Github search[1]): > o.a.c.math3.analysis 2 > o.a.c.math3.distribution 39 > o.a.c.math3.exception 3 > o.a.c.math3.linear 10 > o.a.c.math3.primes1 > o.a.c.math3.random

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread Gilles
Hi. On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:31:23 +0200, Eric Barnhill wrote: Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons component, and more sophisticated spin-out components, around which we might develop a new Math TLP or incubator project in which components of the project that fi

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread Patrick Meyer
After reading more about the proposed changes, I am now comfortable with dividing the library into separate components. However, I have two concerns. First, a package or class that passes unit tests should not be abandoned or depricated just because there is no one to support it. It should only be

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread Eric Barnhill
Like I said, my untrained eye. Sounds like it should definitely be kept. Eric On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:47 AM, sebb wrote: > On 20 June 2016 at 10:31, Eric Barnhill wrote: > > Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons > > component, and more sophisticated spin-out

Re: [MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread sebb
On 20 June 2016 at 10:31, Eric Barnhill wrote: > Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons > component, and more sophisticated spin-out components, around which we > might develop a new Math TLP or incubator project in which components of > the project that find backers

[MATH] what a commons-TLP split could look like

2016-06-20 Thread Eric Barnhill
Here's a proposed draft for how o.a.c.m might be split into a commons component, and more sophisticated spin-out components, around which we might develop a new Math TLP or incubator project in which components of the project that find backers continue on, and those that do not are frozen at their