Re: Merged my first couple of patches from GitHub

2016-02-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2016-02-26 6:20 GMT+01:00 Henri Yandell : > > > AAarRRRrrrGgggghHHhhh > > > > That was painful. > > > > Have you read [1]? :o) > > Benedikt > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/common

Merged my first couple of patches from GitHub

2016-02-25 Thread Henri Yandell
AAarRRRrrrGgggghHHhhh That was painful. Hen

Re: [math] [POLL] new TLP name

2016-02-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Apache Math. On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Martin Grotle Soukup < martin.grotle.sou...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think Apache Math sounds most promising. > > Best regards > Martin Grotle Soukup > > 2016-02-01 18:06 GMT+01:00 Phil Steitz : > > > Please select your top choice among the following sug

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Any reason why you're not going with Apache Math - math.apache.org? No one is going to wince if you have other language implementations in the same project, and if it needs to break up over time because there is Apache Math GroupTheory, Apache Math Fluid Dynamics etc etc; then more power to y'all.

Re: [VOTE] Form a separate TLP based on [math]

2016-01-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > The discussion has thus far been generally favorable. I would like > therefore to put the proposal to split [math] out into a separate > TLP to a VOTE. Assuming a favorable vote, we can discuss how to go > about doing it. Votes, please. Al

Re: [math] TLP

2016-01-14 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 (non-binding). On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Siegfried Göschl < siegfried.goes...@it20one.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > +1 for going TLP (non-binding) > > And the luck for Luc :-) > > Siegfried Goeschl > > > > - Ursprüngliche Mail - > Von: "Luc Maisonobe" > An: "Commons Developers Li

Re: Proposed fluent string utils

2015-11-22 Thread Henri Yandell
My suggestion would be to add a link to teh Commons Lang website to Micha's repo and see how successful it is (i.e. if successful, I'd expect to see users contributing other Lang related fluent APIs to it). I'd suggest renaming to fluengLang :) On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Benedikt Ritter w

Re: [VOTE] Accept Naomi

2015-10-31 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/31/15 3:35 AM, Uwe Barthel wrote: > > Hi Siegfried, > > > > Thanks for your clarification. > > > > It's really commonly use to bypass the incubator for small projects to > become Apache Commons subproject status? > > Apache Commons is on

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 9/29/15 3:55 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Norman, > > > > Hello and welcome to Apache Commons. > > > > It's not clear to me why Naomi is better than regular expressions. > Pointing > > to Javadocs is not the best way to get traction. > > > >

Re: need some help

2015-09-02 Thread Henri Yandell
The currently active projects is a good question (and as I'm not that active myself, let's see which are active). When we were all using Subversion it was easier, but now some components are on Git and some Subversion. Looks like four are on Git (Math, Lang, Compress and SCXML). I would assume, b

Re: [lang] running tests in eclipse

2015-08-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Try this one: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-1143 Sebb's already broken the back on it and I laid out the remaining work. If you've not hit codepoints before, they're quite an interesting area to dive into. You don't need to dive into it much, but reading up on them so you understand

Re: how to refine programming skill

2015-07-19 Thread Henri Yandell
As one idea, I would (if I didn't have too many demands on my time): 1) Browse through the APIs/Code for a piece of code that intrigues you. 2) Read it, write a blog on it, tweet about your blog (or whatever other social networks you're into). 3) Learn about Caliper (https://github.com/google/cali

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons Lang to git

2015-01-07 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi all, > > since we made first (good?) experiences with Commons Math using git as > primary VCS, I'd like to call a vote to migrate Commons Lang to git. > > This vote by lazy consensus will close no sooner than 72 hours from now, > i.

Re: [lang] Differences in commons-lang (2.x) and commons-lang3 prevent TomEE project from migrating completely (Was: Re: [JCS] release?)

2014-10-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/18/14 2:03 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > > You are not including duplicate artifacts, they are totally distinct. > > I think Romain's point is that classes that are not changed in the > different versions are duplicated. It's interesting t

Re: [lang] Rationale for multiplying by one in Conversion?

2014-04-24 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to remove. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Duncan Jones wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The Conversion class has numerous instances in which a value is > multiplied by one (e.g. line 1054): > > shift = i * 1 + dstPos; > > I suspect this is a copy/paste issue, since other parts of the class > foll

Re: [lang] Problem with running tests

2014-04-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Note that checking out from trunks-proper should check out the same code. It's a way to check out all of the Commons component's trunks at the same time. Hen On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hello Svitana, > > you've checken out from the wrong location. The codebase is a

Re: [VOTE] Move Commons Betwixt to dormant

2014-03-13 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > My +1 for the record > > > 2014-03-11 21:08 GMT+01:00 Benedikt Ritter : > > > Hi all, > > > > as discussed, I'd like to propose to move Apache Commons Betwixt to > > dormant. > > > > Reasons: > > - no real activity for a long while [

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.3

2014-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
x27;re better of with an ICLA. > > Benedikt > > > 2014/1/27 Henri Yandell > > > Depends whose arguing probably :) > > > > Our license gives us a right to contributions under Apache 2.0 unless > > stated otherwise; the ICLA is playing safer. We can also simply

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.3

2014-01-26 Thread Henri Yandell
Depends whose arguing probably :) Our license gives us a right to contributions under Apache 2.0 unless stated otherwise; the ICLA is playing safer. We can also simply take anything under a compatible license and include (with suitable licensing). I did that for a method from Spring. Hen On Sun

Re: svn commit: r1560762 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/StringUtilsTest.java

2014-01-25 Thread Henri Yandell
In case you didn't get an answer here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/304383/how-do-i-edit-a-log-message-that-i-already-committed-in-subversion $svn propedit -r N --revprop svn:log URL $svn propset -r N --revprop svn:log "new log message" URL On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Benedikt Ritte

Re: svn commit: r1560382 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/csv/CSVPrinter.java

2014-01-25 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. Makes svn blame useless by creating a date in time when everything was touched. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM, sebb wrote: > I think there is a big difference between creating a class with sorted > methods, and retrospectively sorting methods in an existing class. > > That may improve th

Re: [LANG] New class called StringAlgorithms?

2014-01-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2014/1/18 Oliver Heger > > > > > > > Am 18.01.2014 17:40, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > > > Le 18/01/2014 16:04, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : > > > > > >> About putting this into codec: I still don't think this is a good fit > > for > > >> this

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Lang 3.2.1 based on RC1

2014-01-07 Thread Henri Yandell
(non-binding) +1 from me :) Reviewed the diff between 3.2 and 3.2.1 tags. Source builds happily for me. Hen On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi all, > > during the vote for Commons Lang 3.2, two issues were identified, namely: >LANG-937: Fix missing Hamcrest depen

Re: [LANG] Next steps

2014-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > >> 2014/1/4 Henri Yandell >> >> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Benedikt Ritter >> > wrote: >> > >&g

Re: [LANG] Next steps

2014-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2014/1/4 Henri Yandell > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Benedikt Ritter > > wrote: > > > > > Hello Hen > > > > > > > > > 2014/1/3 Henri Yandell > > > > > &g

Re: [LANG] Snap-shot version in website header

2014-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
ease > of the code base. > > G > > Original message > From: Benedikt Ritter > Date:01/03/2014 08:12 (GMT-05:00) > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [LANG] Snap-shot version in website header > > 2014/1/3 Henri Yandell > > >

Re: [LANG] Next steps

2014-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hello Hen > > > 2014/1/3 Henri Yandell > > > Better move quick on 3.2.1. Only bit I don't like about that is that it > > implies we shouldn't be committing anything that would lead us to want to

Re: [LANG] Next steps

2014-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
with the RMing :) Hen On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > Also +1 to all. > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> +1 to it all. >> >> Gary >> >> Original message >> From: Benedikt Ritter

Re: [LANG] Snap-shot version in website header

2014-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
Yes we change the site between releases. The bigger question is why we have a version number on the website, it isn't versioned. Hen On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Duncan Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > The top of the commons-lang web page reads: > > "Last Published: 01 January 2014 | Version: 3

Re: [LANG] Next steps

2014-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
Also +1 to all. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > +1 to it all. > > Gary > > Original message > From: Benedikt Ritter > Date:01/02/2014 05:29 (GMT-05:00) > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: [LANG] Next steps > > Hi all, > > I've successfully gone t

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Lang 3.2 based on RC2

2013-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi all, > > I've fixed the issues, that were identified in RC1: > > - Release notes now make explicit that 3.2 at least requires Java 6.0 > - Website now makes explicit that 3.2 at least requires Java 6.0 > - MANIFEST now contains "b

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-12-26 Thread Henri Yandell
JIRA issue reopened btw as I noticed it was still resolved. On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Benedikt Ritter > > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:53 > > > > You've set the issue to status resolved. That's propably the > > After

Re: [ALL] Stack Overflow are offering free open source adverts - should we partake?

2013-12-08 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > > Send from my mobile device > > > Am 06.12.2013 um 18:11 schrieb sebb : > > > >> On 6 December 2013 14:11, Duncan Jones wrote: > >>> On 6 December 2013 12:51, Benedikt Ritter > wrote: > >>> 2013/12/6 Gilles > >>> > Hi. > > >

Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components

2013-12-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I think we should keep the lights on, but no more. So sites should exist to that level. What is the minimum needed on the site for a dormant project? Pointer to this list, explanation of what it is/was, pointer to old releases and to the location of the source history. I'm torn on javadoc; I don

Re: javadocs

2013-12-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Here's an old thought - but why not centralize the javadoc? Instead of having components managing their release javadoc, instead make a central library in which the javadoc sites, then deep link to a components item within it. Then it's pretty easy to find an old release, pull the javadoc out and

Re: ApacheCon Asia

2013-11-21 Thread Henri Yandell
A better question for commun...@apache.org. Hen On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Edward J. Yoon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just curious, since 2006, ApacheCon was never held in Asia again. > Is there any particular reason? Anybody can hold a conference? > > Thanks. > > -- > Best Regards, Edward J. Yo

Applying GitHub pull requests

2013-11-11 Thread Henri Yandell
Apologies if this is obvious to all, but I figured I'd share as it took a moment to look it up and get the right answer out of the noise on StackOverflow :) A simple way to apply a GitHub pull request, say: https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/11/ Download (wget etc) https://github.co

Re: [LANG] Release 3.2?

2013-11-11 Thread Henri Yandell
ut better ask first, before we do the first RC. > > Benedikt > > Send from my mobile device > > > Am 07.11.2013 um 07:15 schrieb Gary Gregory : > > > > Release early, release often :) > > > > Original message > > From: Henri Yandell >

Re: Snapshot vs. release sites.

2013-11-11 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:24 AM, sebb wrote: > On 7 November 2013 17:45, Phil Steitz wrote: > > On 11/6/13 10:11 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Gary Gregory > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All: > >>> > >>> I

[LANG] Release 3.2?

2013-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
I'm thinking we should be rolling a 3.2 release. Any opinions? Hen

Re: Snapshot vs. release sites.

2013-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Hi All: > > I find it unhelpful and confusing at times to see Commons sites for > -SNAPSHOT version. > > I'd prefer to be able to browse a whole site for any released version. This > is especially handy when I want to find information for some

Re: svn commit: r1535911 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src: changes/changes.xml main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/translate/OctalUnescaper.java test/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/translat

2013-10-26 Thread Henri Yandell
Their name isn't listed on GitHub. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Hen, > > > 2013/10/26 > > > Author: bayard > > Date: Sat Oct 26 02:14:35 2013 > > New Revision: 1535911 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1535911 > > Log: > > Applying github pull request > https:

Re: [BCEL] Add link to 5.2 JavaDoc to site

2013-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Java doc isn't in the tar.gz for that version? On Friday, October 25, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2013/10/25 Gary Gregory > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Benedikt Ritter > > > > >wrote: > > > > > 2013/10/25 Gary Gregory > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Benedikt Ritt

Re: svn commit: r1535519 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/changes/changes.xml

2013-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
I removed the full stop/period on the end of the line. Thus it was modified. Bit weird that the diff made it -,+,+ rather than +,-,+ which would seem more natural. Hen On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Just a technical question: why was the row about LANG-926 removed an

Re: svn commit: r1535555 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src: changes/changes.xml main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/time/StopWatch.java test/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/time/StopWatchTest.java

2013-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Hen, > > > 2013/10/24 > > > Author: bayard > > Date: Thu Oct 24 21:23:40 2013 > > New Revision: 153 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r153 > > Log: > > Applying Sebb's patch from LANG-774 - adding isStarted, isSuspended and >

Re: [LANG] Findbugs and CheckStyle

2013-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Noting that we've not stopped having Findbugs, Checkstyle and PMD notes from blocking a release in the past if we didn't agree with them. Checkstyle should get improved, but it's not a regression (ie: 3.2 would be no worse than 3.1). Hen On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote:

Re: svn commit: r1534380 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src: main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/NotImplementedException.java test/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/NotImplementedExceptionTest.java

2013-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Hen, > > > 2013/10/21 > > > + * @author Apache Software Foundation > > > > This author tag looks strange. Did you add it by purpose? > > Removed :) Thanks for the catch; it was something we used to do in Commons but stopped doing. Whe

Re: [lang] clirr violations

2013-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Check http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-462 comments for the justification of the BC not being an issue. Hen On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > The current Clirr report shows errors. > > Do want to go to a 4.0 or fix the BC break and do a 3.2? > > Gary > > -- > E-Ma

Re: [maven build] Jira report?

2013-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
the diligence of the developers having kept > up to date the data. Humans = potential for errors; computers = less so ;) > > So I am not crazy about removing information for a given component unless > the RN is of the historical nature. > > Gary > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013

Re: [maven build] Jira report?

2013-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2013/10/22 sebb > > > On 22 October 2013 19:40, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > Anyone know what the point of the JIRA report is? > > > > > > It seems to be much like the changes report, but with less

[maven build] Jira report?

2013-10-22 Thread Henri Yandell
Anyone know what the point of the JIRA report is? It seems to be much like the changes report, but with less active authorship and a confusing inclusion of resolved issues for different versions. I'm wondering why we include it. Hen

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 21 October 2013 11:52, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> > >> > >> > Send from my mobile device >> > >> >> Am 21.

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM, sebb wrote: > On 21 October 2013 11:52, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > > > > > Send from my mobile device > > > >> Am 21.10.2013 um 03:46 schrieb sebb : > >> > >>> On 20 October 2013 15:03, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > >>> I agree. If we don't deprecate it now, and agre

[lang] Issue focus

2013-10-20 Thread Henri Yandell
Thinking out loud - Here are the JIRA issues I think we should focus on: What's left in 3.2: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project+%3D+LANG+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%223.2%22+AND+resolution+%3D+Unresolved The list of issues with patches that need reviewing: https://issues.apache.org/jira

Re: [LANG] Why do we have two checkstyle reports?

2013-10-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Thanks Thomas, that worked :) On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > Hi Benedikt, > > just add a reportSets definition to your checkstyle plugin, then the > aggregate results will not be published: > > > org.apache.maven.plugins > maven-checkstyle-plugin > ... > >

Re: [OT][LANG] Blog post about Validate vs. Guava Preconditions

2013-10-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Definitely jealous about the no apologies - for both Java versions and removing methods from the API without changing package name. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > In general, it is going to be very, very hard for Commons to go up against > guava. The Preconditions stuff i

Re: svn commit: r1532011 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3: ArrayUtils.java ObjectUtils.java

2013-10-19 Thread Henri Yandell
My tuppence: Lang 3 targets Java 6, but users can go upgrade to Java 7. So the deprecated warnings are actionable by changing your code to Java 7. Internal use - would this lead to warnings? As long as it isn't leading to warnings, updating internal is only a best practice and in this case wouldn

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On 18 Oct 2013, at 9:24, Jörg Schaible wrote: > > Hi Christian, >> >> Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> >> On 17 Oct 2013, at 18:12, Paul Benedict wrote: >>> >>> I am glad to hear being "dormant" is not the same thing as being in th

[lang] LANG-781

2013-10-17 Thread Henri Yandell
Matt/Gary: Are we able to move onwards with this issue? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-781 You seemed in agreement. Are the ObjectUtils patches good to apply, and does the Validate patch need implementing? Should the validate part be split off as a separate issue? Hen

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Hen, > > Send from my mobile device > > > Am 17.10.2013 um 08:24 schrieb Henri Yandell : > > > > Wooo! I won on my first post, and by being on the fence. Be afraid when I > > have a strong opinion,

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
ead to continue. You won, go off and > have a beer, and enjoy. > > > On 10/16/2013 11:56 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> There's no veto notion here - if we're abiding by the lowest denominator >> of >> the base Apache voting rules, vetoes are only for code vot

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > My first thought was "We should delete that page". :) > > Done at least for "Release In Progress", last change 4 years ago. Funny > enough it had a line for Collections 4

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 15/10/2013 09:13, Henri Yandell a écrit : > > > Related; here's the output of a 2006 script I've dusted off to show the > > number of commits and from who to each component in 2013: > > &g

Re: svn commit: r1532460 - /commons/trunks-proper/CHALLENGE.txt

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM, sebb wrote: > On 15 October 2013 19:22, Matt Benson wrote > > > Should we also have (interested)? E.g., I am *interested* in > > VFS, particularly VFS3, but I have never committed any code to that > > component as yet. Do we care to capture that in any way for

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
There's no veto notion here - if we're abiding by the lowest denominator of the base Apache voting rules, vetoes are only for code votes. While this is to do with code, it's not code itself. I see it settled in that an understanding is reached. The majority of those voting have indicated that the

Re: [math][lang] LANG-912: Math.sum(int...)

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Thanks Gilles. I've moved it over. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 02:12:41 -0700, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> Should this issue be in Math? >> >> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/LANG-912<https://issues.apache.org/jira/b

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, sebb wrote: > On 16 October 2013 12:25, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > If nobody is willing to put a component to "dormant" state, then the > > label doesn't make any sense. I would vote to remove the dormant state in > > general. > > If we don't have any need of

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
My first thought was "We should delete that page". :) On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Careful there. Hen might suggest making that list dormant. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 16, 2013, at 0:38, Jörg Schaible wrote: > > > BTW: We have already a "challenge" result, i

Re: [LANG] Deprecate time* package?

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
I'm +1 for that. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > Hen, you have expressed that you thing Java 8 will make the time package > obsolete. Do we want to deprecate it? > > Benedikt > > > -- > http://people.apache.org/~britter/ > http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ > http

[math][lang] LANG-912: Math.sum(int...)

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Should this issue be in Math? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-912 Perhaps as ArithmeticUtils.addAndCheck(int...) ? Or should we be thinking of implementing on the Lang side? Hen

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
jira, then go for it. we should also add > a comment the the website so that people know where to start. > > > 2013/10/15 Henri Yandell > > > One reason I like this, apart from the general visualization of the state > > of our todo group, is that it gives us a very nice way

Re: svn commit: r1532031 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/BooleanUtils.java

2013-10-15 Thread Henri Yandell
eserve the availability of the current behavior, which may also > > > occasionally have its place. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Henri Yandell > >wrote: > > > > > >> I think we treat it as a bu

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-15 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 15/10/2013 07:33, Dave Brosius a écrit : > > I couldn't disagree more. Dormant/attic means the project has leprosy. I > > don't know the answer to this, but wondering, has there ever been a > > commit to an attic'ed project? I personall

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
cts. > > > > > On 10/14/2013 11:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move >> to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone >> can >> present a dormancy challenge

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
t 9:27 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/14/13 9:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > > On 10/14/13 8:55 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should > move > >> to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that

Re: svn commit: r1532031 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/lang3/BooleanUtils.java

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I think we treat it as a bug and fix. The code is fine for the explained use of an array of length 2, but fails when you move to larger chains. Given the common meaning of the name, I think people would have noticed if they'd needed xor to work for arrays > 2 and it didn't. So a) I think we can fix

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
> notNull(T, String, Object...) which does substitution in the message, while > Objects only has requireNotNull(Object, String). Deprecating only > Validate.notNull(T) would be strange, wouldn't it? > > Benedikt > > > 2013/10/13 Henri Yandell > > > Website fix

[CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I contend that all of the Commons components are inactive and should move to the Attic/Dormant. In line with Phil's recent suggestion that anyone can present a dormancy challenge at any time, I'm challenging all of Commons Proper. I've made a file in SVN: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comm

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
didn't agree with will have been closed, and ones needing more in depth working out will be in Needs Investigation). It also gives us a group to go to when we're working out what cna go in 3.2 pre release; we look at the review needed group. Hen On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Hen

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi Hen, > > anything that makes working through the issues easier is good. But I think > i don't understand your proposal completely. Do you want to create a new > version that is called "feature requests"? That would feel like duplicating

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
. The main thing to agree on is > what it means to add your name / vote +1 and what minimums we are > going to require. And then once we have the initial pruning done, > how do we keep from backsliding into current state. That is what my > 0) - 2) were referring to. > > Phil

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Wearing my old Attic fart hat - something is dead when there is no one left to turn the light out. Something is inactive when it couldn't pass a vote to keep the project alive (ie: 3 +1s). So that's one way to do this. Make a file in SVN. Put each component in it (include the sandbox perhaps). Ask

Re: Jira is nuts

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 14/10/2013 02:48, Gary Gregory a écrit : > > > One small step for man, one giant leap backward for mankind ;) > > Should we vote to migrate back to Bugzilla then ? ;) > > Stick a big banner on the Apache JIRA saying "Wow, this new ${jira

Re: [LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 14/10/2013 08:06, Henri Yandell a écrit : > > > What do others think? > > I quite like triaging the feature requests with a 'n.x' version and a > '(n+1).0' version. The former indicates t

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 14/10/2013 02:55, Henri Yandell wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> one of the points that seem to always come up once in a while is the > &

[LANG] JIRA management

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
So the current management process in JIRA is a bit rusty, but is intended to be (as in I used to do it that way but no reason why anyone else should): New issue comes in (Version Unscheduled) We assign it to a future version. We use 3.2 for 'yes, soon' and 3.x for 'later'. It gets done with said f

[LANG] Git pull requests

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
These are all sitting in our pull request queue: https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pulls?direction=desc&page=1&sort=created&state=open Not all are open, I know #1 is in the code but I don't know how to close the requests.

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > > > Could be I am misunderstanding the proposal. Do you mean a) RM is > not obligated to do anything but tag a release and create tarballs > or b) RM should just be trusted to "do the right thing" in getting > stuff published and other other

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > I propose release votes be simple revision based requests and involve no > > artifact churn :) > > > > Hen, > > This is a pretty good idea. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > one of the points that seem to always come up once in a while is the > process of releasing components. I've never done it myself so I'm asking > people who have done it: I find myself wondering why a release vote is anything more tha

Re: Site Builds and Release Votes

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 13/10/2013 17:35, Stefan Bodewig a écrit : > > Hi all > > > > in the recent release vote for Compress Gary and I had very different > > opinions on the importance of the site build for release candidates. > > > > On 2013-10-13, Gary Grego

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
Website fixed :) On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > I think this is the priority issue: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-894 > > If we can't fix and deploy our website, having new code is largely > pointless :) > > I'm

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-12 Thread Henri Yandell
umably for most components if Lang hasn't been fixed. Hen On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > +1 to Java 7, though if that only means a few methods should be removed > I'd go with deprecating with a note they'll be removed in Lang 4.0. > > We shou

Re: [LANG] Towards 3.2 and beyond

2013-10-12 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to Java 7, though if that only means a few methods should be removed I'd go with deprecating with a note they'll be removed in Lang 4.0. We should deprecate the time package warning that it will be replaced with a new package based on Java 8's new API in Lang 4.0 :) I'm assuming 4.0 will be Jav

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-11 Thread Henri Yandell
Plus the IRC channel is the only place you'll get to hear Commons history, Matt's music preference for 7th century heretical works and Emmanuel's business plan for IRC log blackmail. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:15 AM, James Carman wrote: > As a reminder, we do have an IRC channel set up on freenod

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving to Git...

2013-10-11 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > Never said the opposite but git or svn is not a questioin IMO, both are > simple and usable today. I'm more attracted by features than the infra > around a project. > > For me commons looks like a big sandbox where rules are more importa

Re: [DISCUSS] Creating Project for Release Process Testing...

2013-10-11 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 from me for anything that makes the release process sane. I'd be committing again if preparing a release was simple enough. As it is, I don't have the blocks of time needed to push out a release and committing to projects with no apparent release manager becomes an exercise in futility. Hen

Re: svn commit: r1519292 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk: .gitignore pom.xml src/changes/changes.xml

2013-09-01 Thread Henri Yandell
It'd be hard to argue it's an expressive work imo, thus even with a header there would be nothing licensable. Hen On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Does the .gitignore file need an AL header? > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: 2013/9/1 > Subjec

Re: Lang: ObjectUtils

2013-07-06 Thread Henri Yandell
I don't see any value having the first two methods - replacing the '==' sign is a bit too far in the 'provide simple methods' direction I think :) I think the third method is already in Lang as: ArrayUtils.contains(array, null); Having a containsNull is semantically nice, but I'm not sure it

Re: [LANG] Release Manager?

2013-05-01 Thread Henri Yandell
al old items that we haven't deemed crucial. Hen On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I just went through the process for Codec so it painfully fresh in my > mind... Give me an idea of when you'd like to see that happen. > > Gary > > On May 1, 2013, at 3:

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