Re: Please help me welcome Arnout Engelen as a committer and PMC member

2024-12-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Welcome Arnout! On Mon, Dec 23, 2024, at 19:00, Gary Gregory wrote: > Welcome aboard Arnout, our latest committer and PMC member! > > Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 18:04, sebb wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > That aside, I would do the following: > > > > - jdk support for at least >7 (varargs need 5, but MessageFormat 7) Just saw MessageFormat is even available in jdk

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t? WRT Log4j 2: So there's another thing to compare WRT to > > performance and String.format and our own {} support... any thoughts on > > that? > > > > Gary > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > &g

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t judgement for now Christian > > Gary > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 00:50, sebb wrote: > > > But it would be interesting to know why the Spring dev thought a new > > > version wou

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
That aside, I would do the following: - jdk support for at least >7 (varargs need 5, but MessageFormat 7) - remove AvalonLogger and LogKitLogger > > > For anything more I would point to log4j 2. > > > > Gary > > > > Original message From

[logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-11-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, I am perfectly aware that I was saying CL needs to be deprecated only before month. Tomcat uses CL and that was more or less the reason it would stay - so I thought. Recently I talked to a person actively involved in Spring. He explained, Spring would use CL and they are quite happy with

Re: [JCS] Rework logging

2014-08-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
com/rmannibucau > > > 2014-08-21 22:04 GMT+02:00 Gary Gregory : >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >> wrote: >> >>> 2014-08-21 21:15 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier : >>> > On 20 Aug 2014, at 15:47, sebb wrote: >>> >

Re: [JCS] Rework logging

2014-08-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Romain, On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > 2014-08-21 21:15 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier : > Not adding a dependency for one line answer. > > For longer one: take tomee example: we have [logging], slf4j cause of > dependencies but as soon as we'l

Re: [JCS] Rework logging

2014-08-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 20 Aug 2014, at 15:47, sebb wrote: On 20 August 2014 14:37, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, sebb wrote: On 20 August 2014 14:04, Gary Gregory wrote: Moving discussion about logging from [JCS-122] to this dev ML. Why not use Log4j 2, uses can redirect logging to ot

Re: [JCS] Rework logging

2014-08-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 20 Aug 2014, at 19:35, Thomas Vandahl wrote: On 20.08.14 15:37, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, sebb wrote: On 20 August 2014 14:04, Gary Gregory wrote: Moving discussion about logging from [JCS-122] to this dev ML. Why not use Log4j 2, uses can redirect logging to

Commons Logging Marketshare (and other commons components)

2013-12-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, i found this interesting: http://www.takipiblog.com/2013/11/26/githubs-1-most-popular-java-projects-here-are-the-top-libraries-they-use/ Cheers Christian --- http://www.grobmeier.de @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - T

Re: [Laboratory Toolkit] proposing a new Apache Commons component

2013-12-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 5 Dec 2013, at 13:44, Valentin Waeselynck wrote: Should I keep answering to the whole ML about this, or only to you? Keep the mailing list in loop. There might be others interested in this. In addition ml do document history which is why we always use the ml. Best regards, Valentin

Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components

2013-12-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
3 03:42 (GMT-05:00) To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components Le 04/12/2013 09:35, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : No objections or no interest? A few more comments would have been helpful. I am going to remove all dormant javadocs on friday or sat

Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components

2013-12-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 29 Nov 2013, at 19:21, sebb wrote: I agree that the Javadoc pages could be removed. Although it would not be difficult to fix the individual pages, there's not much point in fixing Javadoc for dormant components. However I'm not sure it makes sense to delete

Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 19:21, sebb wrote: I agree that the Javadoc pages could be removed. Although it would not be difficult to fix the individual pages, there's not much point in fixing Javadoc for dormant components. However I'm not sure it makes sense to delete the entire website because of the

Re: [cli] Moving to Git?

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 14:44, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 29/11/2013 14:28, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : We should respect the naming conventions of git as good as possible. But git is a tool, not a development method, right? As such it doesn't mandate any specific workflow, even if a r

Re: [cli] Moving to Git?

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 14:39, Torsten Curdt wrote: This in fact means: create a master branch which is stable. create a develop branch which is not so stable. create feature branches from develop where you work out your changes. We are just swapping the branch names here, in the end your mod

Re: [cli] Moving to Git?

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 14:09, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 29/11/2013 12:20, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : This in fact means: create a master branch which is stable. create a develop branch which is not so stable. create feature branches from develop where you work out your changes. We are just

[all] Removing websites of dormant components

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 19.10. I wrote a mail in response to Henri Yandell. http://markmail.org/message/c63kqyipuy6islib I would like to follow up on the issues i mentioned there. Our dormant components are unmaintained and our dormant websites are broken. Therefore I would like to remove the websites. In example

Re: [cli] Moving to Git?

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 26 Nov 2013, at 14:35, Gary Gregory wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 26/11/2013 08:43, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : I propose [1] as branching model. It looks very complicated at first, but I've found it very useful to always have a release ready version of

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:01, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 10/11/2013 21:46, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : From all the log4j talks I gave recently there were zero people using commons-logging. For me it is dead. For what it's worth, the install base of commons-logging in Debian is ten time

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 10 Nov 2013, at 21:24, henrib wrote: Would you share why ? I'm sure it would be beneficial to others (including the commons logging community). Sorry I was short in my reply because I mentioned this a few times already. Didn't find the mails, so here we go: As you probably know, I have

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 10 Nov 2013, at 18:47, Lukasz Lenart wrote: Ok, so let's leave logging layer for now and we should focus on preparing the first release +1, thanks Lukasz! 2013/11/9 Gary Gregory : Neither does log4j 2 ;) Original message From: henrib Date:11/09/2013 12:23 (GMT-05:0

Re: [site] update to fluido/log4j inspired skin

2013-11-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I like it pretty much. Good job. Anything which can go back into fluido and gives us the chnace to work with the "original fluido"? On 2 Nov 2013, at 18:47, Thomas Neidhart wrote: Hi all, I have further reworked the skin available at https://github.com/netomi/commons-skin-fluido and the res

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 9 Nov 2013, at 19:54, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 7 Nov 2013, at 18:08, Lukasz Lenart wrote: 2013/11/7 Jason Pyeron : -Original Message- From: Benedikt Ritter Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:00 Yes, as long as it's Log4j2 ;-) Now I need a sed script to replace

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 7 Nov 2013, at 18:08, Lukasz Lenart wrote: 2013/11/7 Jason Pyeron : -Original Message- From: Benedikt Ritter Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:00 Yes, as long as it's Log4j2 ;-) Now I need a sed script to replace j.u.l. to it... Is Log4j2 the one that is desired? I figured S

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 9 Nov 2013, at 18:23, henrib wrote: IMHO, commons logging is the best choice for this kinds of lib; it does not force the choice of the implementation library. No. Commons Logging is NOT the best choice. It's one of the worst. Just my opinion, but I will object to that. Henrib -- View

Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-11-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
al Message- From: Benedikt Ritter [mailto:brit...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:28 To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging? 2013/9/4 Lukasz Lenart 2013/9/3 Christian Grobmeier : I found 11 uses of e.printStackTrace and think its pretty bad.

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 19 Oct 2013, at 17:22, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Being in the attic is NOT a permanent thing. Get active developers, leave the attic. If a project doesn't make any sense, stay in the attic. We are having an attic but called it &qu

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 18 Oct 2013, at 9:24, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Christian, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 17 Oct 2013, at 18:12, Paul Benedict wrote: I am glad to hear being "dormant" is not the same thing as being in the "attic" Why? Because "attic" means more or less t

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
one in the attic - except that the term "attic" is more established (as in foundation wide) as the term "dormant". That said, I will not fight for removing the dormant-term. If you all like it keep it. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/17/13

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 17 Oct 2013, at 18:03, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/17/13 5:52 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> On 17 Oct 2013, at 2:39, Henri Yandell wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, sebb wrote: >>> >>>> On 16 October 2013 12:25, Christian Grobmei

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 17 Oct 2013, at 2:39, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, sebb wrote: On 16 October 2013 12:25, Christian Grobmeier wrote: If nobody is willing to put a component to "dormant" state, then the label doesn't make any sense. I would vote to remove the do

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 16 Oct 2013, at 23:14, Mark Thomas wrote: On 16/10/2013 21:34, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Now what are you folks expecting? A full-fleshed out plan how to move? I think we should first decide IF we move and that was was happening here. What I was expecting was decisions to be made on the

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 16 Oct 2013, at 22:46, Phil Steitz wrote: On 10/16/13 1:34 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 14 Oct 2013, at 9:13, Mark Thomas wrote: Further, if the consensus amongst the active developers on a component is that they wish to stick to svn, I see no why that component should be forced to

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
omain Manni-Bucau Matt Benson Benedikt Ritter Bruno Kinoshita Gary Gregory Luc Maisonobe Oliver Heger Christian Grobmeier Torsten Curdt -1s Mark Thomas Thomas Vandahl Damjan Jovanovic Gilles Sadowski Jorg Schaible +0.5 Olivier Lamy +0 Ralph Goers -0 Emmanuel Bourg The vote passes, so Apache Co

Re: [VOTE] Release Compress 1.6 based on RC2

2013-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 16 Oct 2013, at 16:28, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Maybe I have interpreted the Clirr report wrong. But besides the two buffer fields it doesn't look so bad (just additions). I believe these two fields are acceptable although I under

Re: [VOTE] Release Compress 1.6 based on RC2

2013-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, [X] +1 Release these artifacts On 16 Oct 2013, at 15:20, Gary Gregory wrote: Thank you Stefan for the new RC. +1 Maybe I have interpreted the Clirr report wrong. But besides the two buffer fields it doesn't look so bad (just additions). I believe these two fields are acceptable althoug

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If nobody is willing to put a component to "dormant" state, then the label doesn't make any sense. I would vote to remove the dormant state in general. If we don't have any need of a specific component we can put it to attic.apache.org too. No need to duplicate things. If we don't have a "dorm

Re: Apache Commons IRC Channel...

2013-10-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 14 Oct 2013, at 15:34, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Thanks to the infra team we now have JIRA and svn commit notifications > on the channel. Enjoy :) boah thats cool! Thanks for organizing that! (assuming oyu did!) > Emmanuel Bourg > > > Le 10/10/2013 18:15, James Carman a écrit : >> As a reminde

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Commons to Git for SCM...

2013-10-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 let's move on step by step. On 10 Oct 2013, at 16:50, James Carman wrote: > All, > > We have had some great discussions about moving our SCM to Git. I > think it's time to put it to a vote. So, here we go: > > +1 - yes, move to Git > -1 - no, do not move to Git > > The vote will be left ope

Re: [VOTE] Moving to Git...

2013-10-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Cheers Christian On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: +1 I consider this move to happen step by step and see only little risk if we start with a single component first. As the half of the world works with git meanwhile I see less risk in general too. On 1

Re: [VOTE] Moving to Git...

2013-10-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 I consider this move to happen step by step and see only little risk if we start with a single component first. As the half of the world works with git meanwhile I see less risk in general too. On 10 Oct 2013, at 16:41, James Carman wrote: All, We have had some great discussions about

Re: [VOTE] Moving to Git...

2013-10-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 10 Oct 2013, at 18:43, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi James, > > James Carman wrote: > >> Sorry, didn't understand your question. The Apache Camel team uses >> Git and they release maintenance versions all the time (I believe >> about 3 or 4 at a time sometimes when a bug fix gets merged down). >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Putting several unmaintained components to dormant

2013-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Here is some commit activity: http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?view=plot&from=20130101&to=20131009&path=%2Fcommons%2Fproper&plotsort=%24plotsort But we should to exclude "typo" fixes and such. For example: http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?view=resultlist&from=201301

Re: [DISCUSS] Why is releasing such a pain and what can we do to make it easier?

2013-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 8 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Hey Gary, you are involved in other projects (like log4j2) how do they do it? Is it easier to release log4j2 than it is to release for example [lang]? Check this guide: http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4j2ReleaseGuide In fact we have an ASF m

Re: [DISCUSS] API compatibility policy

2013-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 8 Oct 2013, at 12:48, James Carman wrote: I think the idea is to change the mindset. There seems to be an almost militant desire to maintain compatibility. Yes, we have the version number scheme, but some folks just never want to break compatibility it seems. This stalls innovation. I do

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving to Git...

2013-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 8 Oct 2013, at 11:42, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: just an habit. svn diff && attach diff to a jira is as easy/hard as git push + PR. Tools like GitHub succeed because not everybody agrees with you. svn/diff is stoneage to some. git/pr is the future for them. Maybe you are right about the h

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving to Git...

2013-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 8 Oct 2013, at 6:53, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Not sure svn is the issue. What makes quality and which rules are mandatory is more important IMO. If you want to attract a new generation it is important. Would you contribute to a CVS project? I would if you need it urgently for work.

Re: [DISCUSS] Mission Statement for Commons...

2013-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 7 Oct 2013, at 13:58, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: What would be the difference to now? The difference can be *huge*, emotionally. For example, I felt quite at home at the webservices project when working in JaxMe, XML-RPC, or Axis

Re: [DISCUSS] Mission Statement for Commons...

2013-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 7 Oct 2013, at 12:58, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote: Hi Jochen, Well summarized. And I think you figured out what the real problem is. We could work as in Incubator, isn't it? Having one big umbrella and real subprojects. What would be the difference to now? I understand Commons as a project

Re: [DISCUSS] Mission Statement for Commons...

2013-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
James, thank you. I believe Commons is in a bad shape. Look at Commons Collections. Before 4 years somebody said Guava is more modern, he his answer seems to be widely accepted. http://stackoverflow.com/a/167/690771 This guy said we have no generics. What did we do in the past 4 years? http

Re: [DISCUSS] Mission Statement for Commons...

2013-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 6 Oct 2013, at 20:57, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/6/13 11:45 AM, James Carman wrote: >> Collections 4.x, nuff said > > Huh? Didn't we release a beta? We could say the same thing about > math 4.0, pool/dbcp 2.0, etc. These things are in progress. They > will get released. There is activity.

Re: svn commit: r1528612 - /commons/sandbox/monitoring/trunk/reporting/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/monitoring/reporting/web/plugin/PluginRepository.java

2013-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 5 Oct 2013, at 14:29, James Carman wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: I'm not sure I agree with all of your points. Yes, the sandbox is a place to try new ideas out. Does this mean certain quality criterions do not apply? I don't think so. This all has to be co

[OGNL] checkstyle for maven styled code...

2013-09-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I found this in ognl pom: org.apache.maven.plugins maven-checkstyle-plugin 2.7 config/maven_checks.xml config/maven-header.txt I thought I would remember there is something going on with these m

[OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013-09-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I found 11 uses of e.printStackTrace and think its pretty bad. Including OgnlException overwrites printStackTrace and writes to System.err for some reason. In addition there are a lot of System.out's, but those are all commented and seem to have served debugging purposes. I believe small libs lik

[OGNL] Dropped JDK 1.3 Support

2013-09-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Please note, there was code in ognl.ASTMap to support jdk1.3. Considering maven aims at jdk 5, i removed this code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.a

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-03-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/mauriziocucchiara > VisualizeMe: http://vizualize.me/maurizio.cucchiara?r=maurizio.cucchiara > > Maurizio Cucchiara > > > On 26 March 2013 09:53, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >> 2013/3/26 Christian Grobmeier : >>> +1, go for it. >>> Now its time to see if our te

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-03-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lukasz Lenart wrote: > 2013/3/26 Christian Grobmeier : >> +1, go for it. >> Now its time to see if our testcases are good. > > They are, I made a slight mistake and tests showed that :-) > >> I also think we should test it in conju

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-03-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ing to remove two deprecated classes right now. >> >> >> Regards >> -- >> Łukasz >> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >> >> 2013/3/8 Christian Grobmeier : >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM, sebb wrote: >>>> On 6 March 2013 06

Re: svn commit: r1459020 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/csv/CSVRecord.java

2013-03-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Benedikt Ritter >> wrote: >> >> +/** >> >> + * Returns an iterator over the values of this record. > Iterable.iterator() doc is: > > "Returns an iterator over a set of elements of type T." > > I thought it would be nice to tweak this a bit to match a CS

Re: svn commit: r1459020 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/csv/CSVRecord.java

2013-03-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> +/** >> + * Returns an iterator over the values of this record. >> + * >> + * @return an iterator over the values of this record. >> + */ >> > > I had no better idea how to comment this. Any suggestions how to make this

Re: [Commons Wiki] Trivial Update of "MarlaQuin" by MarlaQuin

2013-03-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Should we move to the AdminGroups with this wiki too? I think yes On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Apache Wiki wrote: > Dear Wiki user, > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Commons Wiki" for > change notification. > > The "MarlaQuin" page has been changed by MarlaQuin: > h

Re: [OT] Verifying releases Was: svn commit: r1452037 - /commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/bugs/Jira422TestCase.java

2013-03-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: > On 9 March 2013 00:39, Ralph Goers wrote: >> I'm not sure I understand what the big deal is. Sebb vetoed a commit and >> identified exactly what needed to be changed for him to remove the veto. If >> the requested change is made then all should b

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-03-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM, sebb wrote: > On 6 March 2013 06:49, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was checking out what should be solved before releasing a new >> version and in my opinion most of PMD [1] errors can be omitted, maybe >> "These nested if statements could be combined" shoul

Re: [BeanUtils] Removing @author tags?

2013-03-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Strictly speaking, you do not need his permission AFAIK. IOW, don't bother > sending ME an email to tell me you'll moving my @author to pom.xml ;) Out of interest, are you sure there is no permission needed? I am thinking on another project wh

Re: [fileupload] drop JDK1.3 support, update to 1.5 and bump to 2.0.0

2013-03-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1... jdk1.3... On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Just for the record: I don't intend to do a major rewrite ATM, just > update and bugfix. > > best, > -Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripo

Re: svn commit: r1432688 - /commons/proper/logging/trunk/pom.xml

2013-01-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > On 2013-01-13 19:14, t...@apache.org wrote: >> Author: tn >> Date: Sun Jan 13 18:14:24 2013 >> New Revision: 1432688 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1432688&view=rev >> Log: >> Upgrade test dependencies: log4j 1.2.17, avalong-fr

Re: [logging] Cleanup of trunk

2013-01-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: >> I'm -1 on this change. I don't see any reason to do it. We don't need >> features from a more recent Java version in commons-logging. As others >> have said: most users of commons-logging are old and older apps. > > In general I am fine wi

Re: [logging] Cleanup of trunk

2013-01-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 12/01/2013 19:29, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: >>> On 12/01/2013 17:36, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>> >>>> Basically I am +1 on moving to

Re: [logging] Cleanup of trunk

2013-01-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 12/01/2013 17:36, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Basically I am +1 on moving to newer JDKs. But in this case I just see >> use for old and older applications. >> That said, I just checked and saw tomcat is sti

Re: [logging] Cleanup of trunk

2013-01-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > On 01/12/2013 05:37 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Thomas Neidhart >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to do a similar cleanup as for email also for lo

Re: [logging] Cleanup of trunk

2013-01-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to do a similar cleanup as for email also for logging and > aim for a 1.2 release in the coming weeks. The things I have in mind: > > * update to Java 5 > * comply to default maven structure > * update to Junit 4 >

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-01-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Do you know how to exclude some files/directories from the rat-plugin > scan ? Right now it includes .idea folder in the scan which produces > mass of errors :\ have not tried yet, but it supports an "exclude" option in the configuration: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/apache-rat-plugin/rat-mojo.

Re: [OGNL] A new release

2013-01-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Lukasz Lenart wrote: > Another issue, I've noticed that the parent is defined as 28-SNAPSHOT, > should it be simple 27 - the latest released version? Not sure about the differences of these 2, but I think we cannot release a stable version with a dependency to a -S

BeanShell?

2013-01-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, before 2 or 3 months we have voted to let BeanShell come to Commons. There is this page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal But there was never a vote on the incubator list. Nor did I see any sign of life from the original authors. Actually it seems to me this project i

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
d the new repo with the "old" content. But I >>> don't get why that has to be the case; because if it is, we are in >>> worse shape than Christian suggests - come Jan 1 we will be dark if >>> we don't get everything moved to svn pub-sub. >>&g

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
e in >> worse shape than Christian suggests - come Jan 1 we will be dark if >> we don't get everything moved to svn pub-sub. >> >> Sorry if above is naive. The intent is to avoid a huge amount of >> fiddling in a short period of time when quite a few component si

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
h from commons.apache.org to the new site > Gary > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 7:13, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> Bah, let's pick one component and start there and skip a test site. >> >> But then

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Bah, let's pick one component and start there and skip a test site. But then there is only one component visible under the new commons.a.o? > Gary > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:08, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> star

We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
starting from 1. January. Just saw a final reminder from Infra. Commons is surely a LOT of work. I would like to suggest we act immediately. In other terms: let us request a commons-test cms where we can try things out and prepare the new sites. As Ralph Goers has already mentioned, we have a s

Re: [all] moving to svnpubsub or CMS?

2012-11-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>> 2012/11/14 Thomas Vandahl : On 14.11.2012 08:40, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > > Please, could someone who knows what to d

Re: [math] apachecon

2012-09-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I am there too! (referring to ApacheCon EU) Cheers On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody plan to go to ApacheCon 2012? > Would be nice to meet each other there. > > Thomas > > - > T

Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site

2012-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, and just to say it clearly: i am very much +1 to finally add this skin. Cheers Christian On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi again, > > Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css. > > I re-uploaded the site, can you ple

Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site

2012-08-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 30/08/2012 15:52, Simone Tripodi a écrit : >> Hi all guys, >> >> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started >> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if >> the new skin would be applied (w

Re: [all] NSWC and Apache license

2012-08-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: >>> Does that mean that porting it into Commons-Math is possible >>> (license-wise?). I would think it does… >> >> That seems explicitly restrictive to me. e.g. If I don't claim to be in the >> general scientific community, the software h

Re: [IMAGING]/[SANSELAN] JIRA error

2012-06-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:50 AM, sebb wrote: > On 26 June 2012 22:50, sebb wrote: >> Some new SANSELAN JIRAs have just been raised, however the JIRA was >> renamed to IMAGING. >> >> Looks like something is wrong with JIRA; I'll raise an Infra issue. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA

Re: which artifact repository to get commons-io from?

2012-06-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> However, as already mentioned on the respository mailing list, the > .asc has been restored to the staging directory, so it should now be > possible to release the full set of files. I saw the mail from infra, but he mentioned the checksum is not correct or something like that. Or am I wrong? we

Re: which artifact repository to get commons-io from?

2012-06-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:25 PM, sebb wrote: > On 19 June 2012 16:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, sebb wrote: >>> On 19 June 2012 13:05, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Gary Gregory >>>

Re: which artifact repository to get commons-io from?

2012-06-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, sebb wrote: > On 19 June 2012 13:05, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, J

Re: which artifact repository to get commons-io from?

2012-06-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: >> > Commons-IO 2.4 has not made it to a Maven repo yet. I am working on it... >> >> Any problems, you could use help with?

Re: [ognl] Old issues....

2012-06-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Łukasz Lenart wrote: > Finally, the old issues from OpenSymphony were imported :-) You are a true hero and i am impressed by your patience! Thank you so much for following this issue for so long time. I would have done a simple copy, but your solution is much be

Re: [ALL] Using a Tool Like Sonar...

2012-06-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > If sonar for snapshots on a.a.o replaces POM requested reports instead > of complementing them, you loose the ability to analyze before > committing, surely something we do not want. you can use: mvn sonar:sonar before you commit, which should

Re: [classscan] logging

2012-06-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I would rather we eat our own dog food with log4j or commons logging. As classscan is in sandbox... I think it would help the logging team if we would try log4j 2.0 alpha. It is a great framework already and logging-people could learn about pr

Re: [VOTE] Release Compress 1.4.1 based on RC1

2012-05-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to release Compress 1.4.1. > > Compress 1.4.1 RC1 is available for review here: >    http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/cc/ > >  Maven artifacts are here: >     > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/org

Re: Git support?

2012-05-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM, James Carman wrote: > Perhaps classscan?  :) makes perfect sense to me :-) > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> On May 19, 2012 10:13 PM, "Gary Gregory" wrote: >>> >>> A one c

Re: Git support?

2012-05-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> > If we propose to switch one component first, I would be happy to > > volunteer for switching [math]. What do other developers think about > > Jochen idea ? > > > > Luc > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jochen > >> > &g

Re: Git support?

2012-05-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Its still in development. I have asked to switch to git with log4php before a few weeks and the answer was it is possible, if one of us gets involved in the git@apache project. I assume it is the the here. Its definitely not GA at the moment. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrot

Re: [ALL] BeanShell incubation?

2012-04-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I read the thread and thought BeanShell would fit to Commons... I think there are only a few committers. OGNL is in the same vein too. I would oppose if the BS developers are not willing to continue the project here. This is not very likely the case here Cheers, Christian On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6

Re: [compress] Releasing 1.4

2012-04-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On 2012-03-31, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Before ages when I wrote the "ChangeSet" stuff I have marked them as >> "experimental". Have not heard any complains yet... we should discuss >>

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