Re: Immutable builder pattern for parsers?

2017-02-12 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 09/02/17 04:02, Peter Ansell wrote: Not all fluent configuration APIs are "builder patterns". By that I mean that you can have a "return this" convention for the builder with mutable fields without it building or cloning new objects. A builder pattern is characterised by a terminal method r

Re: [REPORT][DRAFT] Apache Commons Board Report for December 2016

2016-12-15 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 15/12/16 11:04, Gary Gregory wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: On 14/12/16 23:06, Gary Gregory wrote: Hi All: I am requesting your feedback before I send this off. ## Activity: - The project is active with 6 releases this reporting period. We released

Re: [REPORT][DRAFT] Apache Commons Board Report for December 2016

2016-12-15 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 14/12/16 23:06, Gary Gregory wrote: Hi All: I am requesting your feedback before I send this off. ## Activity: - The project is active with 6 releases this reporting period. We released one new component Commons RNG 1.0. Commons Math still feels in semi-limbo and now depends on Common

Re: [RDF] Graduating Commons RDF to Commons PMC

2016-11-30 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 30/11/16 11:03, Sergio Fernández wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: There are other RDF related projects in ASF. That's a confusing choice of key name. I agree. But then, how do we accommodate to the current Apache Commons naming in Jira? Feedback wou

Re: [RDF] Graduating Commons RDF to Commons PMC

2016-11-30 Thread Andy Seaborne
There are other RDF related projects in ASF. That's a confusing choice of key name. Andy On 30/11/16 07:33, Sergio Fernández wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: Is there anything to be done for jira? Well, that's a question I also had. So far we have been

Re: Board report

2015-04-08 Thread Andy Seaborne
http://reporter.apache.org/ generates basic stats for projects and it says: ## PMC/Committership changes: - Currently 35 PMC members in the project. - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months - Last PMC addition was Henning Schmiedehausen at Wed Nov 06 2013 ## Mailing list activity:

Re: [ALL] Badges for github README.md

2015-03-03 Thread Andy Seaborne
Sorry to interrupt - this is not a "for" or "against" comment but something I want to make sure was considered. Apache is independent of any commercial entity. For example, there was a discussion about the "github/forkme" stripe in project home pages. The outcome was that it was too much like

Re: svn commit: r1659973 [1/3] - in /commons/sandbox/rdf/trunk: ./ api/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/rdf/ impl.sparql/ impl.sparql/src/ impl.sparql/src/main/ impl.sparql/src/main/java/ impl.sparql/

2015-02-19 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 19/02/15 16:05, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: Great we are on the same page :) I also think a SPARQL backend will be a reasonable way to push the API boundaries, so we can evaluate aspects relating to streaming, blank node identifiers, etc. for an implementation that has less direct control of i

Re: [RDF] Local Scope and BlankNode internalIdentifier (was: github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF)

2015-02-03 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 03/02/15 15:42, Reto Gmür wrote: Should BNode be shareable across Graphs? The Abstract Syntax says that they can be shared across the graphs of the same dataset, Yes - they can be shared. The note about shared across the graphs of the same dataset is to highlight an important point. It is

Re: [RDF] Local Scope and BlankNode internalIdentifier (was: github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF)

2015-02-02 Thread Andy Seaborne
Hi Reto, There is a key point in this disussion that is worth pulling out. RDF has a data model and there is also an interpretation of the data model. The data model is one spec ("Concepts and Abstract Syntax") and the interpretation in another ("Semantics", also commonly referred to as the M

Re: [ALL] [RDF] Commons RDF approach

2015-01-30 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 30/01/15 07:45, Sergio Fernández wrote: On 29/01/15 15:28, Benedikt Ritter wrote: So maybe it's better if someone else steps up (we have people here who meet the necessary requirements), and I will just join the incubator commons rdf community and help you that way. Yes, having you in the c

Re: [RDF] Local Scope and BlankNode internalIdentifier (was: github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF)

2015-01-28 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 27/01/15 17:11, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: I agree that "local scope" should be clarified "local scope" is a piece of terminology used only for RDF syntax. Once away from syntax, there is no "scope" to a blank node. It is described in: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#section-blank-n

Re: [DISCUSS][RDF] Separate mailing list for Commons RDF

2015-01-20 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 20/01/15 14:08, Mark Thomas wrote: On 20/01/2015 13:07, Andy Seaborne wrote: On 20/01/15 08:49, Mark Thomas wrote: At this point it looks to me like the incubator would be a much better destination, particularly given the general impression I get of the RDF community not really

Re: [DISCUSS][RDF] Separate mailing list for Commons RDF

2015-01-20 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 20/01/15 08:49, Mark Thomas wrote: At this point it looks to me like the incubator would be a much better destination, particularly given the general impression I get of the RDF community not really understanding how the ASF works. I am disappointed by that comment. There are several ASF pr

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-19 Thread Andy Seaborne
graph level is naturally driven by the specs but as soon as systems issues get thrown into the mix, the choice space is much larger. Andy Thanks! Bruno - Original Message - From: Andy Seaborne To: dev@commons.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:40 AM Subject: Re

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-19 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 18/01/15 12:07, Benedikt Ritter wrote: ... To sum this up: All that is blocking github commons rdf to join Apache Commons is the mailing list thing? > > Regards, > Benedikt Some thinking out loud ... in email ... There are two mailing lists issues : "dev" and "commits". "commits" has some

Re: your opinion on commons-rdf proposal

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Minto van der Sluis mailto:mi...@xup.nl>> wrote: Hi Reto, Thanks for showing interest in my opinion. First of all the whole discussion around commons-rdf involves way to much religion. Religion as in: my implemention should be reference

Re: [RDF] Updated Commons-RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 14/01/15 18:34, Reto Gmür wrote: There has been an indirect reply here: https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/issues/43, as the issue point to this thread I though to add a back-link but I would prefer to have a discussion here and to discuss about concrete code proposals I would very m

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 15/01/15 11:52, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: Hello! I feel like I can't help much in the current discussion. But just wanted to chime in and tell that I'm +1 for a [rdf] component in Apache Commons. As a commons committer I'd like to help. I started watching the GitHub repository and have su

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-17 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 16/01/15 00:29, Peter Ansell wrote: I hope there is no bad blood from the aborted effort last time. There were a variety of causes, including the reasons above but we all joined the GitHub discussion with the goal of hosting the project inside of the Apache Foundation and IMO Apache Commons is

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 15/01/15 16:15, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:52:11 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months after Java 8 came out (link below). At that time the break down w

Re: Commons RDF

2014-12-20 Thread Andy Seaborne
Phil Steitz wrote: The question we always ask about new component ideas is can we grow and sustain a community around them. Couldn't agree more. As you may have noticed, there is a community and it's been arguing for years! >> >We came here originally. We found that there is a Commons way

Re: Commons RDF

2014-12-20 Thread Andy Seaborne
Hi, Apache Commons serves a specific purpose for collaboration amongst Apache projects. There is already collaboration between projects in Apache in the RDF space. We have projects using each others releases (Clerezza uses Jena; Stanbol use Clerezza and specifically the Jena providers; we a

Re: Commons RDF

2014-12-19 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 19/12/14 08:58, Reto Gmür wrote: Apart from yours all reactions on the clerezza mailing lists where positive including the one from a contributor to the github-commons project. I'm sorry you feel that way - it was not my intention. With my first email [1] was intended to be positive and hig

Re: Commons RDF

2014-12-18 Thread Andy Seaborne
I am rather surprised by the approach here. There are several RDF-related projects - Jena, Marmotta, Any23, Stanbol, Clerezza and other that use RDF. How do they fit in? reto wrote: Following the recent announcement and as mentioned yesterday I've started some steps towards commons RDF. Ho

Re: [DISCUSSION] commons-rdf

2014-07-21 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 21/07/14 13:05, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Hi Sergio, If I understand well this is a kind of specification API? The actual implementations will be done in Jena/Marmotta/OpenRDF? Emmanuel Bourg While, as I understand it, OpenRDF [*] is adopting the interface natively, It does not look any any

Re: [DISCUSSION] commons-rdf

2014-07-21 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 21/07/14 12:12, Benedikt Ritter wrote: About the commons-rdf code itself: I only took a very brief look. As far as I understand this is only supposed to be an API, hence there are no implementation classes, right? One thing that caught my eye is BlankNoreOrIRI... Is this defined as such in the