Re: [ALL] CI builds and Java versions

2020-07-26 Thread Matt Sicker
If building on Jenkins, it looks like Infra still supports all the way back to 1.4: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/JDK+Installation+Matrix On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 16:46, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Hi All: > > As a guideline I think our CI builds should use the following Java versi

[ALL] CI builds and Java versions

2020-07-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi All: As a guideline I think our CI builds should use the following Java versions: - Java 8 since it is LTS - Java 11 since it is LTS - Java 14 since it is the latest version - Java 15-ea since it is upcoming, but should be allowed to fail a build - Java 16-ea since it is upcomin

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. Thanks for detailing your POV. However... Le dim. 26 juil. 2020 à 19:08, Melloware a écrit : > > I know there seems to to be a holy war "holy war" certainly not. The notion of "independence" would be appropriate. > about the use of GitHub going on > here but I thought I would just chime i

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Le dim. 26 juil. 2020 à 19:58, Rob Tompkins a écrit : >> >> I haven’t read all that’s going on here. But in my mind we treat GitHub as a >> first class citizen, right? > > Depends on what that means. > As Matt said, it's our PR man

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Le dim. 26 juil. 2020 à 19:58, Rob Tompkins a écrit : > > I haven’t read all that’s going on here. But in my mind we treat GitHub as a > first class citizen, right? Depends on what that means. As Matt said, it's our PR manager. > We’re trying quite hard intact to make it our main working repo

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. Le dim. 26 juil. 2020 à 19:04, Xeno Amess a écrit : > > I thought it was obvious so I didn't do the benchmark. Performance is so *not* obvious that JMH prints a warning in its output. [So even if the numbers don't match your expectation, you might be right anyway, in some use-cases, or i

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
I haven’t read all that’s going on here. But in my mind we treat GitHub as a first class citizen, right? We’re trying quite hard intact to make it our main working repo infrastructure. That said, there is an Apache policy that we maintain workable copies of everything on owned infrastructure.

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Melloware
I know there seems to to be a holy war about the use of GitHub going on here but I thought I would just chime in with some thoughts as an open source developer and avid user of GitHub. There have been so many different points I will only discuss a few that I think are important. 1. GitHub is t

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Xeno Amess
I thought it was obvious so I didn't do the benchmark. You need it so I've done it now. pinned at https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/565 Gilles Sadowski 于2020年7月26日周日 下午11:48写道: > 2020-07-26 17:34 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess : > > Thanks for the suggestions about JIRA message and commit style

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
2020-07-26 17:34 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess : > Thanks for the suggestions about JIRA message and commit style. > Will find some time to refine the texts. > >> ... randomly picking LANG-1576 (sorry if the others don't fit the >> following), I'll stress again that there are more important things >> to do

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Xeno Amess
Thanks for the suggestions about JIRA message and commit style. Will find some time to refine the texts. > ... randomly picking LANG-1576 (sorry if the others don't fit the > following), I'll stress again that there are more important things > to do before such (supposed) performance enhancement.

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi Xeno. 2020-07-26 13:10 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess : >>> For examples about my prs at commons-lang,if my memory is correct, only >>> gary (and sometimes kinow) reviewed my prs, and I don't think we have > only >>> two committers in commons-lang. > >> Are there JIRA reports? > > My log here is: > > LA

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Don't you mean Java 8? Are you suggesting that Lang 4 would be based on > Java 11? Oh...yes, pardon I don’t count correctly sometimes :-p > > Gary > >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 10:12 Rob Tompkins wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 26, 2020

Re: [commons-compress] branch master updated: Enable GitHub Dependabot.

2020-07-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Well, French is first my language, so we are in the ESL boat together ;-) I am glad we can converse in a shared language, and it does not have to be Latin or esperanto! Gary On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 10:13 Peter Lee wrote: > It's why apache and open source is so charming and why we all love this so

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Don't you mean Java 8? Are you suggesting that Lang 4 would be based on Java 11? Gary On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 10:12 Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Xeno Amess wrote: > > > > btw, is there a roadmap/timeline for 4.0? > > And will we continue maintaining 3.x then? > > I w

Re: [commons-compress] branch master updated: Enable GitHub Dependabot.

2020-07-26 Thread Peter Lee
It's why apache and open source is so charming and why we all love this so much. :-) cheers, Lee On 7 26 2020, at 10:04 , Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Peter Lee wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, Rob, Gilles, Gary and all, > > > > Please calm. > > I was just talking that I'

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Rob Tompkins wrote: > >  > >> On Jul 26, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Xeno Amess wrote: >> >> btw, is there a roadmap/timeline for 4.0? >> And will we continue maintaining 3.x then? > > I would think 4.0 might happen in conjunction with the release of Java 17 > (the

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Xeno Amess wrote: > > btw, is there a roadmap/timeline for 4.0? > And will we continue maintaining 3.x then? I would think 4.0 might happen in conjunction with the release of Java 17 (the next expected LTS version I’ve seen for java). I think that’s when we ca

Re: [commons-compress] branch master updated: Enable GitHub Dependabot.

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Peter Lee wrote: > > Hi Stefan, Rob, Gilles, Gary and all, > > Please calm. > I was just talking that I'm so busy recently ( Too busy in the daytime that I > got home after 12p.m. these days :( ) .I didn't check my mailbox after my > last replay in this threa

Re: [commons-compress] branch master updated: Enable GitHub Dependabot.

2020-07-26 Thread Peter Lee
Hi Stefan, Rob, Gilles, Gary and all, Please calm. I was just talking that I'm so busy recently ( Too busy in the daytime that I got home after 12p.m. these days :( ) .I didn't check my mailbox after my last replay in this thread. Really sorry for my late reply. I'm not complaining. I personally

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 7:17 AM, Xeno Amess wrote: > >  >> >>> For examples about my prs at commons-lang,if my memory is correct, only >>> gary (and sometimes kinow) reviewed my prs, and I don't think we have > only >>> two committers in commons-lang. > >> Are there JIRA reports? > > My log

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Gary Gregory
There are no plans that I know of right now for 4.0 except that we know we want to drop deprecated code. Gary On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 07:36 Xeno Amess wrote: > btw, is there a roadmap/timeline for 4.0? > And will we continue maintaining 3.x then? > > Gary Gregory 于2020年7月26日周日 下午7:25写道: > > > No

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Xeno Amess
btw, is there a roadmap/timeline for 4.0? And will we continue maintaining 3.x then? Gary Gregory 于2020年7月26日周日 下午7:25写道: > Note that Lang does not and should not depend on Text for example. Some > classes that are in Lang now have been deprecated in favor of similar > functionality in Text, the

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Note that Lang does not and should not depend on Text for example. Some classes that are in Lang now have been deprecated in favor of similar functionality in Text, the Str[ing]Substitutor packages for instance. We can remove that Lang code in 4.0. Gary On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 04:16 Bruno P. Kinosh

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Xeno Amess
>> For examples about my prs at commons-lang,if my memory is correct, only >> gary (and sometimes kinow) reviewed my prs, and I don't think we have only >> two committers in commons-lang. > Are there JIRA reports? My log here is: LANG-1545 merged by gary LANG-1561 merged by gary LANG-1563 merged

Re: [all] github

2020-07-26 Thread Gilles Sadowski
2020-07-26 5:00 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess : >>GitHub is basically our interactive pull request interface. If we didn’t > have that, I bet we’d be running GitLab ourselves or similar. > > Yes, that is what I think gitbox lacks. As Matt says above, the functionality is there. As noted in my previous me

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-26 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
Not following the thread, but from your explanation it sounds OK to me. There are other parts of Lang that could do with some trimming for a future 4.x release I think, either moving some code to other components or suggesting the use of JVM code (e.g. some of the date/time methods). Bruno