Re: [math] Volunteer for the new TLP PMC

2016-01-25 Thread William Barker
On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gilles wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:54:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> Please respond to this thread if you are a Commons Committer >> interested in joining the PMC for the new TLP based on [math]. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Phil >> > > I'm interested in as much as I'm

Re: [lang] release 3.5

2016-01-25 Thread Loic Guibert
I'm currently pretty busy at work, i don't have much time to work on Commons-Lang too. Sorry. Regards, Loic Guibert PGP : 0x65EB4F33 Le 18/01/2016 15:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : > Hi, > > 2016-01-16 6:41 GMT+01:00 Loic Guibert : > >> Hi, great ! >> >> There are some ticket/PR open and handled b

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Chas Honton
Using the list from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areas_of_mathematics, the current commons math appears to be a sub-set of numerical analysis algorithms. Is this correct? Will this continue be the focus of a math tlp? Unfortunately, Apache Numerical Analysis does not trip off the tongue.

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > Any reason why you're not going with Apache Math - math.apache.org? > +1! Gary > > No one is going to wince if you have other language implementations in the > same project, and if it needs to break up over time because there is Apache >

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Any reason why you're not going with Apache Math - math.apache.org? No one is going to wince if you have other language implementations in the same project, and if it needs to break up over time because there is Apache Math GroupTheory, Apache Math Fluid Dynamics etc etc; then more power to y'all.

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Ole Ersoy
It's very easy to create one, but I think we should focus on small high quality simple to use modules and let third parties provide assemblies. I think most of us will feel better about providing solutions that explicitly declare the modules used. This gives maintainers a more precise target.

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
If you decide to break up math into modules, I encourage you to also provide an all-in-one jar. Gary On Jan 25, 2016 4:22 PM, "Ole Ersoy" wrote: > Also if each module is very simple and isolated alphas, betas, etc. matter > less (If at all). Most devs releasing to npm rely on semver only. > > C

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Ole Ersoy
Also if each module is very simple and isolated alphas, betas, etc. matter less (If at all). Most devs releasing to npm rely on semver only. Cheers, Ole On 01/25/2016 02:27 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Jan 25, 2016 10:11 AM, "Emmanuel Bourg" wrote: Le 25/01/2016 18:52, Gilles a écrit : AFAI

[Math] JDK "Random" and "BitsStreamGenerator"

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
Hi. In CM, a base class "BitsStreamGenerator" contains methods for generating various primitive types from a bit source (to be implemented by subclasses by overriding the "next(int bits)" method). For example, to get a random "long" value, the following code is called: ---CUT--- public long n

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > In practice it is most likely that a user of the 1.1 version of the > Antlib (firstly, doesn't exist, but if they did) would see no effect > because Ant's own classes are loaded in the parent CL of the Antlib's > CL, therefore the Ant classes,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Matt Benson
In practice it is most likely that a user of the 1.1 version of the Antlib (firstly, doesn't exist, but if they did) would see no effect because Ant's own classes are loaded in the parent CL of the Antlib's CL, therefore the Ant classes, correctly, would not be used. While the jar is technically no

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Did I misread that the 1.1 jar included shaded code from other jars? Gary On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 1/25/16 3:57 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > But the binaries are not BC. Even if that was a silly mistake, the > release > > notes must note the break in BC. > > I may

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 3:57 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > But the binaries are not BC. Even if that was a silly mistake, the release > notes must note the break in BC. I may have misunderstood what Matt said, but IIUC there is no actual BC break. Could any applications break as a result of what Clirr is reportin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
But the binaries are not BC. Even if that was a silly mistake, the release notes must note the break in BC. Gary On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > +1, weaver is for now mainly an internal for other asf projects - which are > BTW blocked by this vote - and the binaries

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+1, weaver is for now mainly an internal for other asf projects - which are BTW blocked by this vote - and the binaries are fine. The site can be fixed anyway when pushed to no reason to hold this release. Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau | Blog

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 1:30 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Matt Benson wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Gary Gregory > wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gary Gregory >>> wrote: >>> Antlib's Clirr report has a lot of errors: > https://people.apache.or

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Jan 25, 2016 12:59 PM, "Thomas Neidhart" wrote: > > On 01/25/2016 09:27 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Jan 25, 2016 10:11 AM, "Emmanuel Bourg" wrote: > >> > >> Le 25/01/2016 18:52, Gilles a écrit : > >> > >>> AFAICT, the real issue is one of policy: Commons is supposed to be > > stable, > >>>

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 01/25/2016 09:27 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Jan 25, 2016 10:11 AM, "Emmanuel Bourg" wrote: >> >> Le 25/01/2016 18:52, Gilles a écrit : >> >>> AFAICT, the real issue is one of policy: Commons is supposed to be > stable, >>> stable, stable and stable (IIUC). >>> >>> And CM is far from being mat

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Matt Benson wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gary Gregory > > wrote: > > > >> Antlib's Clirr report has a lot of errors: > >> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.2-rc2/commons-wea

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Jan 25, 2016 10:11 AM, "Emmanuel Bourg" wrote: > > Le 25/01/2016 18:52, Gilles a écrit : > > > AFAICT, the real issue is one of policy: Commons is supposed to be stable, > > stable, stable and stable (IIUC). > > > > And CM is far from being mature as a programming project, when considering > >

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 25/01/2016 18:52, Gilles a écrit : > AFAICT, the real issue is one of policy: Commons is supposed to be stable, > stable, stable and stable (IIUC). > > And CM is far from being mature as a programming project, when considering > design and scope, and not only the quality of its results and per

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Ole Ersoy
The general pattern that I'm seeing within the NodeJS community is that big projects are being broken up into smaller projects and those smaller projects are being broken up yet again, etc. What I find refreshing about that is that it's pretty simple to find a component / module that I need fo

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:17:43 -0800, Gary Gregory wrote: Note that we can change the name Apache Commons Math to Apache Commons Cutesy name as well as turn it into a multi-module project. You do not need a TLP to do that. AFAICT, the real issue is one of policy: Commons is supposed to be stab

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Note that we can change the name Apache Commons Math to Apache Commons Cutesy name as well as turn it into a multi-module project. You do not need a TLP to do that. I see lots of email about name change but not many about why this component would better serve its community under a TLP and/or diffe

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread sebb
On 25 January 2016 at 15:47, Matt Benson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: >> >>> Antlib's Clirr report has a lot of errors: >>> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.2-rc2/commons-weaver-parent/

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Ole Ersoy
I like any name that is simple (It's also good if it has a nice ring to it). If we are hoping to incorporate more modules from other projects then perhaps 'apache-davinci'? I like 'apache-epsilon' as well. On 01/25/2016 05:40 AM, sebb wrote: On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc wrote: Le 2016-

Re: [math] Volunteer for the new TLP PMC

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 6:05 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:54:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Please respond to this thread if you are a Commons Committer >> interested in joining the PMC for the new TLP based on [math]. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Phil > > I'm interested in as much as I'm being curious to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Weaver 1.2 based on RC2

2016-01-25 Thread Matt Benson
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gary Gregory > wrote: > >> Antlib's Clirr report has a lot of errors: >> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.2-rc2/commons-weaver-parent/commons-weaver-antlib/clirr-report.html >> >> This is no

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:38:42 +, Schalk Cronjé wrote: By matter of assocation (and some expressive freedom). Ajama -> Adama -> Battlestar Galactica -> Galactica -> Mathelactica. And thus: Mathelactica the Apache Mathematics library Sounds more adapted to a milk factory... ;-) Gilles

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:15:20 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/25/16 7:01 AM, Gilles wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:47:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/25/16 12:40 AM, Ole Ersoy wrote: Umbrella-ish is good. Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...T

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Schalk Cronjé
By matter of assocation (and some expressive freedom). Ajama -> Adama -> Battlestar Galactica -> Galactica -> Mathelactica. And thus: Mathelactica the Apache Mathematics library I think that name can fly (pun intented). Regards On 25/01/2016 13:24, Gilles wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:41

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Hasan Diwan
Megginson is a Souix mathematician , so perhaps Meggison.apache.org ? -- H On 24 January 2016 at 23:52, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. > If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient went > to Apac

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 7:01 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:47:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 1/25/16 12:40 AM, Ole Ersoy wrote: >>> Umbrella-ish is good. Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural >>> networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an >>> umbrella. Some of the other A

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:01:38 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/25/16 2:28 AM, luc wrote: Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : Hi, I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient went to Apache

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 6:24 AM, Gilles wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:41:46 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> Le 25/01/2016 13:21, Gilles a écrit : >> >>> * AJaMa >>> ? >>> >>> The last one is short while fully descriptive: >>> AJaMa >>>is >>> the Apache JAva MAthematics library >> >> This one will proba

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 2:28 AM, luc wrote: > Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous >> mathematician. >> If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons >> HttpClient went >> to Apache HttpComponents. How about Apache Mat

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:47:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/25/16 12:40 AM, Ole Ersoy wrote: Umbrella-ish is good. Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an umbrella. Some of the other Apache projects that do math may be interested in

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/25/16 12:40 AM, Ole Ersoy wrote: > Umbrella-ish is good. Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural > networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an > umbrella. Some of the other Apache projects that do math may be > interested in moving that piece under the Apache Math umbrella.

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:41:46 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 25/01/2016 13:21, Gilles a écrit : * AJaMa ? The last one is short while fully descriptive: AJaMa is the Apache JAva MAthematics library This one will probably sound too similar with Jama, another math library: http://math

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread luc
Le 2016-01-25 12:49, James Carman a écrit : Epsilon is catchy I like it too. As we have a tendency to chase down accuracy, it seems a good fit. The logo would be easy to select ... It would do well with the existing (despite quite stagnant) Apache Commons Nabla

Re: [math] Volunteer for the new TLP PMC

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:54:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Please respond to this thread if you are a Commons Committer interested in joining the PMC for the new TLP based on [math]. Thanks! Phil I'm interested in as much as I'm being curious to see if it will change anything! :-} There were a f

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 25/01/2016 13:21, Gilles a écrit : > * AJaMa > ? > > The last one is short while fully descriptive: > AJaMa >is > the Apache JAva MAthematics library This one will probably sound too similar with Jama, another math library: http://math.nist.gov/javanumerics/jama/ Will the new TLP fo

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Gilles
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:40:48 +, sebb wrote: On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc wrote: Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : Hi, I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. In which case it has to be Euclid or Pythagoras (early) or Paul Erdős - https

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread James Carman
Epsilon is catchy On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:41 AM sebb wrote: > On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc wrote: > > Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. > > In which case it has to be > > Euclid or

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread sebb
On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc wrote: > Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. In which case it has to be Euclid or Pythagoras (early) or Paul Erdős - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number

Re: [math] Volunteer for the new TLP PMC

2016-01-25 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > Please respond to this thread if you are a Commons Committer > interested in joining the PMC for the new TLP based on [math]. > Hi Phil, thanks for pushing this whole issue! I am happy to volunteer for the new PMC to be formed. Thomas

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread luc
Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : Hi, I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient went to Apache HttpComponents. How about Apache Math Components as TLP name? Benedikt 2016-01-25 8

Re: [math] Name of the new TLP

2016-01-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > We need to agree on a name... FWIW from the board's point of view, once that's done it's good to create a https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH ticket to document the name search. It's fine to use that jira project even

Re: [cli]

2016-01-25 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hello Pooja, 2016-01-21 6:54 GMT+01:00 Chitnis, Pooja : > Hi cli dev team, > > I recently upgraded to the commons-cli version 1.3.1 where the BasicParser > is deprecated. So if I sue the DefaultParser instead, my following sample > code would not work - > > public static void main(String[] args)