Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Curt Arnold
If you want to drive into this, you may want to review the LogMF and LogSF companions and related discussion in the archives. The cost of the array construction implicit in a vararg call and the cost of boxing scalars can dwarf the cost of determining whether to log or not. Unfortunately those

Re: svn commit: r7200 - in /release/commons/csv: binaries/ source/

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
I'm OK with all that but it should be documented someplace. Yet another thing that makes our releases a PITA :-( Gary On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:44 PM, sebb wrote: > Deletion of the previous release should not happen until the new > release has been announced. > In turn, the announcement should n

Re: svn commit: r1640967 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:41 PM, sebb wrote: > On 21 November 2014 at 17:34, wrote: > > Author: ggregory > > Date: Fri Nov 21 17:34:41 2014 > > New Revision: 1640967 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1640967 > > Log: > > Released Apache Commons CSV 1.1. > > > > Modified: > > commons/proper

Re: svn commit: r7200 - in /release/commons/csv: binaries/ source/

2014-12-01 Thread sebb
Deletion of the previous release should not happen until the new release has been announced. In turn, the announcement should not be sent until at least1 day after the new release has been published to allow mirrors time to catch up. On 21 November 2014 at 17:25, wrote: > Author: ggregory > Date

Re: svn commit: r1640967 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml

2014-12-01 Thread sebb
On 21 November 2014 at 17:34, wrote: > Author: ggregory > Date: Fri Nov 21 17:34:41 2014 > New Revision: 1640967 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1640967 > Log: > Released Apache Commons CSV 1.1. > > Modified: > commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml > > Modified: commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml >

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Christian, one of those unlikely users of Avalon is the Turbine framework but I can lend a hand with AvalonLogger :-) Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl > On 01 Dec 2014, at 19:17, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 18:04, sebb wrote: >> On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian G

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2014 at 18:17, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 18:04, sebb wrote: >> On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> > That aside, I would do the following: >> > >> > - jdk support for at least >7 (varargs need 5, but MessageFormat 7) > > Just saw

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 18:04, sebb wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > That aside, I would do the following: > > > > - jdk support for at least >7 (varargs need 5, but MessageFormat 7) Just saw MessageFormat is even available in jdk 5. So I would opt for this

Re: [VFS] VFS sandbox?

2014-12-01 Thread Dan Tran
see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VFS-438 I have the changes at https://svn.codehaus.org/mojo/tags/vfs-1.0/vfs-smb for reference only, it does not get pushed to Maven Central -D On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Israel, > > > The sandbox is not released as a jar f

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Jens Kapitza
Hi, just reading through the list i'll come up with some comments below Am 01.12.2014 um 18:04 schrieb sebb: On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 00:50, sebb wrote: But it would be interesting to know why the Spring dev thought a new version would b

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2014 at 09:28, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 00:50, sebb wrote: >> But it would be interesting to know why the Spring dev thought a new >> version would be useful. > > The team seemed to discuss moving to slf4j, but he mentioned they were > happy not doing it s

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 14:31, Gary Gregory wrote: > FWIW, I think a new version of CL would be 'fun' if it included support > for > Log4j 2... Agreed. :) > > Gary > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > MessageFormat? WRT Log4j 2: So there's another thing to compare

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 13:57, Gary Gregory wrote: > MessageFormat? WRT Log4j 2: So there's another thing to compare WRT to > performance and String.format and our own {} support... any thoughts > on that? No, didn't think about this yet. I just pass on what I was told without judgement for now

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
FWIW, I think a new version of CL would be 'fun' if it included support for Log4j 2... Gary On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > MessageFormat? WRT Log4j 2: So there's another thing to compare WRT to > performance and String.format and our own {} support... any thoughts on tha

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
MessageFormat? WRT Log4j 2: So there's another thing to compare WRT to performance and String.format and our own {} support... any thoughts on that? Gary On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 00:50, sebb wrote: > > But it would be interesting to k

Re: [VFS] VFS sandbox?

2014-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
Israel, The sandbox is not released as a jar for licensing reasons IIRC. You have to check it out of SVN and build it yourself. Gary On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Israel Malachi wrote: > Hello all! > I'm writing a program that uses the VFS (2.0) so I could manage SFTP and > samba connection

Re: [logging] Commons Logging 2.0?

2014-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 00:50, sebb wrote: > But it would be interesting to know why the Spring dev thought a new > version would be useful. The team seemed to discuss moving to slf4j, but he mentioned they were happy not doing it since the learned about bc breaks within slf4j versions. In general

Re: [ALL] Do we need help?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Thomas
On 01/12/2014 00:42, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: > Hello Benedikt! > I guess I'm being too cautious to commit or work on issues in other > components :) Don't worry about it. Everything at Commons is CTR (commit-then-review). The worse thing that can happen is that you have to revert a commit. It