[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-scxml-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2012-12-28 Thread Gump
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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-dbutils (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-chain2 (in module apache-commons) failed

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Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 04:48:59PM +0100, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 28/12/2012 16:08, Dimitri Pourbaix a écrit : > > Luc, > > > >> However, it is also possible to set a non-diagonal weight matrix, and > >> one class (AbstractLeastSquaresOptimizer) performs an eigen dcomposition > >> on the matrix

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-digester3 (in module apache-commons) failed

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Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. > [...] > > third is just bug-fix. Does the fix for the issue that started this > > thread change the API? If so, we would need to cut 3.2 in any case. The current fix does change the usage (one needs to call optimize with an argument of a different type). IIUC, it also silently removes th

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-dbcp2 (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-dbcp (in module commons-dbcp-1.x) failed

2012-12-28 Thread Gump
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Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
> > That's what I was going to write. At the moment, the current implementation > for sparse matrices and vector is deprecated, for lack of convincing fixes > for the bugs which have been found. These bugs are mainly related to the > fact that zero --the unstored value-- is signed, and the sign is

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-28 Thread Olivier Lamy
Still no response from infra https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5657 So I don't know how to start importing content... What to do is: * upgrade to parent 28-SNAPSHOT * add a property exec which contains the project path relative to commons.a.o And that's it :-) parent will need a chan

Re: [commons-parent] drop cobertura

2012-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
On Dec 28, 2012, at 15:11, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 12/28/12 11:44 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> It seems a shame to turn off this feature for ALL projects because one >> project can't figure out a workaround. > > Can *any* project find a workaround? Is there *any way* to turn > this thing off? I w

Re: [VFS] Support for File System Roots?

2012-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
I think the question should be considered with regard to how each OS deals with this. IIRC Java has a get roots API. I am on my phone ATM and cannot dig in. Gary On Dec 28, 2012, at 15:05, Mark Fortner wrote: > Hi Gary, > Good question. There would need to be some OS version checking to > dete

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 28/12/2012 19:47, Phil Steitz a écrit : > On 12/28/12 10:35 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: >> Le 28/12/2012 19:11, Phil Steitz a écrit : >>> On 12/28/12 9:58 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : > Hi, > > I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hello, 2012/12/28 Luc Maisonobe > Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization > > framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should > > probably look forward and think about how to design it prope

Re: [commons-parent] drop cobertura

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 11:44 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > It seems a shame to turn off this feature for ALL projects because one > project can't figure out a workaround. Can *any* project find a workaround? Is there *any way* to turn this thing off? Phil > > Gary > > On Dec 28, 2012, at 12:21, Phil Steitz wr

Re: [VFS] Support for File System Roots?

2012-12-28 Thread Mark Fortner
Hi Gary, Good question. There would need to be some OS version checking to determine which directory to return. I seem to recall that older versions of Windows had a C:\Documents and Settings folder or something like that. Currently, I use Spring to config these directories (rather than hard cod

Re: [VFS] Support for File System Roots?

2012-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi, Ok, patches welcome! :) What happens if there is a c:\Documents folder? Gary On Dec 28, 2012, at 14:54, Mark Fortner wrote: > Hi Gary, > This would be per operating system. So, if I call > *RootFactory.getRoot(RootNames.HOME) > *from a Linux box, that would resolve to */home/*, on a Wind

Re: [VFS] Support for File System Roots?

2012-12-28 Thread Mark Fortner
Hi Gary, This would be per operating system. So, if I call *RootFactory.getRoot(RootNames.HOME) *from a Linux box, that would resolve to */home/*, on a Windows box that might be */Users/*. It would be driven by the * System.getProperty("user.home")* variable. The other roots, are OS dependent an

Re: [commons-parent] drop cobertura

2012-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
It seems a shame to turn off this feature for ALL projects because one project can't figure out a workaround. Gary On Dec 28, 2012, at 12:21, Phil Steitz wrote: > Any objections to this? In [math] at least we can't seem to turn it > off and it is causing the site build to take forever. > > Tha

Re: [VFS] Support for File System Roots?

2012-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
Would this only be for Windows? What do URIs look like? Gary On Dec 28, 2012, at 14:18, Mark Fortner wrote: > I was wondering if there were any plans (or currently any way) to support > File System Roots. In addition to the standard sorts of roots, there are > roots like your home directory, t

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 10:35 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 28/12/2012 19:11, Phil Steitz a écrit : >> On 12/28/12 9:58 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: >>> Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : Hi, I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization framework gets worse wi

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Hassan Siddiqui
> > What about 3.1.1 with just the fix for this, then possibly 3.2 or > > direct to 4.0. > > As you want. I don't like adding too many sub-release numbers, just > as > if someone fears jumping to next version. I remember some Sun > products > and Perl versions that end up with something like 5 rel

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 28/12/2012 19:11, Phil Steitz a écrit : > On 12/28/12 9:58 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: >> Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization >>> framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should >>> probably

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 9:58 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization >> framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should >> probably look forward and think about how to design it prop

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 28/12/2012 17:51, Konstantin Berlin a écrit : > Hi, > > I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization > framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should > probably look forward and think about how to design it properly > instead. > > Several times I brought out

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
On Dec 28, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri Pourbaix wrote: > Hi, > >>> I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization >> framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should probably >> look forward and think about how to design it properly instead. >> >> +1 - though we

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Dimitri Pourbaix
Hi, I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should probably look forward and think about how to design it properly instead. +1 - though we have the constraint that we need to maintain backward compatibility until

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
>> >> Several times I brought out some problems and ideas about the package and it >> seems the only person who has an opinion is Gilles. >> >> I will list what I consider to be major problems >> 1) The OO design is bad, too much inheritance which could be handled better >> by interfaces, > We

Re: We will not be able to update our websites...

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/18/12 2:32 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/12/18 Olivier Lamy : >> 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : >>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>> 2012/12/18 Ralph Goers : > On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> Maybe could be simpler with committing your sta

[commons-parent] drop cobertura

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
Any objections to this? In [math] at least we can't seem to turn it off and it is causing the site build to take forever. Thanks! Phil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 8:51 AM, Konstantin Berlin wrote: > Hi, > > I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization framework > gets worse with every iteration. However, we should probably look forward and > think about how to design it properly instead. +1 - though we have the constraint

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
Hi, I can understand Dimitri's frustration, it seems the optimization framework gets worse with every iteration. However, we should probably look forward and think about how to design it properly instead. Several times I brought out some problems and ideas about the package and it seems the o

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 8:12 AM, Dimitri Pourbaix wrote: > Luc, > >> So in order to make sure I understand your point, you would be OK >> if I >> deprecate the non-diagonal weights, in which case users needing this >> would have to implement it themselves by premultiplication (as >> both you >> and Konstantin

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Dimitri Pourbaix
Luc, So in order to make sure I understand your point, you would be OK if I deprecate the non-diagonal weights, in which case users needing this would have to implement it themselves by premultiplication (as both you and Konstantin seem to propose)? Yes, exactly. Sure, but for the record the

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Dimitri Pourbaix
Phil, You are certainly welcome to help verify future release candidates, as well as the commits that go into them. I did not wait for your kind offer. Gilles got my comments on features I do use everyday on a huge dataset. Regards, Dim. -

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
Luc, Agreed. Dimitri brought out a good point about correlated errors that I didn't think about. All these cases can be handled by user modifying his/her input, but it would be nice to think about how this can be supported in the future. I think this problem showed up for two general reasons, w

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 28/12/2012 16:08, Dimitri Pourbaix a écrit : > Luc, > >> However, it is also possible to set a non-diagonal weight matrix, and >> one class (AbstractLeastSquaresOptimizer) performs an eigen dcomposition >> on the matrix to extract its square root. I don't know any use case for >> this, but it h

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/28/12 7:08 AM, Dimitri Pourbaix wrote: > Luc, > >> However, it is also possible to set a non-diagonal weight matrix, >> and >> one class (AbstractLeastSquaresOptimizer) performs an eigen >> dcomposition >> on the matrix to extract its square root. I don't know any use >> case for >> this, but

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Dimitri Pourbaix
Luc, However, it is also possible to set a non-diagonal weight matrix, and one class (AbstractLeastSquaresOptimizer) performs an eigen dcomposition on the matrix to extract its square root. I don't know any use case for this, but it has been set up this way, so I guess someone has a use for non-

Re: [math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Konstantin Berlin
Hi, I am not clear on the use of weights in a non-least squares problem is. In a least-squares problem the weights can simply be taken in by the user in their input function. So the weights option is a convenience feature, any non-standard matrix weights could be programmed in by the user, if t

[math] major problem with new released version 3.1

2012-12-28 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Hi all, I have encountered a major problem with version 3.1 just released. This problem occurs in the revamped optimizers. One of the OptimizationData implementations we can pass to multivariate vector optimizers is the weight of the various observations. In all cases I can think of, this weight