Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Niall Pemberton wrote: > 2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> 2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible > wrote: >> Hi Grzegorz, >> >> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04:

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
2009/11/28 Paul Benedict : > I am recommending something unconventional here. We could include the > enforcer plug-in, in DBCP 1.4's POM, to enforce at least JDK 1.6 is > used. Just food for thought. Its not necessary since setting the source/target JDK version to 1.6 will ensure DBCP 1.4 is built

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Benedict
I am recommending something unconventional here. We could include the enforcer plug-in, in DBCP 1.4's POM, to enforce at least JDK 1.6 is used. Just food for thought. Paul On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Phil

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Phil and Niall, > > Phil Steitz wrote: > >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jörg Schaible >>> wrote: Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 10:45: > Hi Jo

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> 2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Grzegorz, > > Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: > >> Phil Steitz wrote: >

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Phil and Niall, Phil Steitz wrote: > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jörg Schaible >> wrote: >>> Hi Grzegorz, >>> >>> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 10:45: >>> Hi Jorg Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Grzegorz, > > Grze

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Niall Pemberton wrote: > 2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible >>> wrote: Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: > Phil Steitz wrote: >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
2009/11/27 Phil Steitz : > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> Hi Grzegorz, >>> >>> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: >>> Phil Steitz wrote: > Niall Pemberton wrote: > ... > Good points - so wh

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Grzegorz, >> >> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: >> >>> >>> Phil Steitz wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> ... Good points - so what is your recommendation? o

Re: [lang 3] static or dynamic type checks?

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Benedict
James, I would typically agree about the bad design part except for the usage of valdiation. Here, all we want to do is validate an object, as you said, and the public API does not take advantage of the static type (such as different parameters). It's better for introspection to occur, IMO. Paul

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Grzegorz, >> >> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 10:45: >> >>> Hi Jorg >>> >>> Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:

Re: [lang 3] static or dynamic type checks?

2009-11-27 Thread James Carman
Are we going to keep the 2,3,4-arg versions? We have to have one that accepts Object anyway, so I guess it does keep the API a bit cleaner to not clutter it with a Map, Collection, etc. version. I really don't like instanceof in code, though. It just screams bad design. Usually it means that you

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Grzegorz, > > Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 10:45: > >> Hi Jorg >> >> Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> Hi Grzegorz, >>> >>> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: > > [snip] > >> I didn't though

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Grzegorz, > > Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: > >> >> >> Phil Steitz wrote: >>> Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> >> ... >>> Good points - so what is your recommendation? >>> >>> org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp4:1.

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 10:45: > Hi Jorg > > Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Grzegorz, >> >> Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: [snip] > I didn't thought about Maven in this sentence. For me generally it's not > good practic

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Grzegorz Słowikowski
Hi Jorg Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: Phil Steitz wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: ... Good points - so what is your recommendation? org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp4:1.3 commons-dbcp:commons-dbcp:1.3

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz Słowikowski wrote at Freitag, 27. November 2009 09:04: > > > Phil Steitz wrote: >> Niall Pemberton wrote: >> > ... >> Good points - so what is your recommendation? >> >> org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp4:1.3 >> commons-dbcp:commons-dbcp:1.3 >> >> or >> >> org.apache.comm

Re: svn commit: r884737 - /commons/proper/dbcp/branches/TEST_DBCP_1_3_BRANCH/pom.xml

2009-11-27 Thread Grzegorz Słowikowski
Change too. nia...@apache.org wrote: Author: niallp Date: Fri Nov 27 01:14:36 2009 New Revision: 884737 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=884737&view=rev Log: Change source/target JDK to 1.4 Modified: commons/proper/dbcp/branches/TEST_DBCP_1_3_BRANCH/pom.xml Modified: commons/prope

Re: [dbcp] 1.3 release packaging - take two

2009-11-27 Thread Grzegorz Słowikowski
Phil Steitz wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: ... Good points - so what is your recommendation? org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp4:1.3 commons-dbcp:commons-dbcp:1.3 or org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp:1.3 commons-dbcp:commons-dbcp:1.3 or org.apache.commons:commons-dbcp:1.4 commons-dbcp:commo