Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-18 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Sam Halliday" To: Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation Excellent :-) I think the consensus is to keep the sparse interfaces empty for now... don't want to lock ourselves into an

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 18, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: As a minimum, major changes require a package name change, and as has been pointed out a maven id change. So: (1) minor incompatible changes (remove long deprecated methods or fix details at the edges). These are compatible for 99% o

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Matt Benson wrote: Which still resounds with my preceding statement, though I admittedly hadn't > thought it through that far. So anytime the API changes in a breaking > way we need to jump major versions, append the new major version to the > component name for the m2 artifact, and do likewise

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Torsten Curdt
Ouch! Wanted to do it but got $ svn up svn: REPORT of '/repos/asf/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read chunk size: Secure connection truncated (https://svn.apache.org) instead. Maybe try later? Me now -> bed. cheers -- Torsten On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 22:29, Henri Yandell wrote: > Sounds good. I

[continuum] BUILD SUCCESSFUL: Commons - Commons Pool -

2009-05-18 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=192004&projectId=116 Build statistics: State: Ok Previous State: Failed Started at: Mon 18 May 2009 14:31:30 -0700 Finished at: Mon 18 May 2009 14:33:39 -0700 Total time: 2m 9s Build Trigger: Schedule Bui

Re: Time for a POOL 1.5 release?

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Thomas
Phil Steitz wrote: > Mark Thomas wrote: >> I have finished working my way through the open POOL bugs. >> >> Of the remaining issues, 2 are bugs that only affect the 2.0 branch and >> rest are improvements. >> >> Given that Tomcat is waiting on a DBCP release and DBCP is waiting on a >> POOL release

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons - Commons Pool -

2009-05-18 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=191999&projectId=116 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Mon 18 May 2009 13:31:41 -0700 Finished at: Mon 18 May 2009 13:34:02 -0700 Total time: 2m 21s Build Trigger: Schedule Bu

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Sounds good. If no one does it, I'll make the SVN karma change tonight to add you to the sandbox. If you have karma to do that, feel free. General approach for proper is to either work on a dev proposal in sandbox if you have a lot, or to work on issues in JIRA via patches. Hen On Mon, May 18, 2

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Torsten Curdt
also +1 from me! On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 19:39, Jörg Schaible wrote: > +1 > > Could build from the src package running all tests with my complete compiler > zoo. > > - Jörg > > Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> RC2 is based on SVN revision: 774630 >> >> It includes minor changes on th

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi, > > On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to >>> parent >>> pom, and >>> creates a >>> manifest file which includes OSGi directives, whi

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Ceki Gulcu wrote: > Hello all, > > I have created an empty Maven project with groupId "commons-logging", > artifactId "commons-logging" and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very > little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be > expected as the original aim was to produce an em

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: > Thanks ^^ > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >>> The link from: >> http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is >>> working correctly. >>> >>> The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. >> Thi

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
The relevant element should have been inserted within element and not . Issue solved now. Thank you for your help. Ceki Gulcu wrote: sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the "default" tags works OK for me. What "default" tags have you

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the "default" tags works OK for me. What "default" tags have you tried exactly? The manifest ones I mentioned: true true Thank you for the pro

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > > sebb wrote: > > > > I just tried, and using the "default" tags works OK for me. > > > > What "default" tags have you tried exactly? The manifest ones I mentioned: true true > -- > Ceki Gülcü > L

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
+1 Could build from the src package running all tests with my complete compiler zoo. - Jörg Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi all, > > RC2 is based on SVN revision: 774630 > > It includes minor changes on the site, corrects svn properties and > makes a testcase run on win xp. > > Please vote:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Thanks, Matt and Ceki. It's all clear now. Craig On May 18, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Ceki Gulcu wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Just for my information, why is it not desirable to package this as an OSGi compliant jar? Because we would not want an empty bundle containing no classes to usurp the pl

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the "default" tags works OK for me. What "default" tags have you tried exactly? -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Craig L Russell wrote: Just for my information, why is it not desirable to package this as an OSGi compliant jar? Because we would not want an empty bundle containing no classes to usurp the place of the real commons-logging OSGi bundle. Also, why is the maven group id commons-logging and no

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Craig L Russell wrote: > From: Craig L Russell > Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY > To: "Commons Developers List" > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:18 PM > Hi, > > On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: > > > On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu > wrote: > >>

Re: svn commit: r776006 - /commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, c...@apache.org wrote: Author: ceki Date: Mon May 18 16:47:32 2009 New Revision: 776006 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=776006&view=rev Log: name correction Huh? My bad. I has forgotten to save my changes in the editor before committing. -- Ceki Gül

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, and creates a manifest file which includes OSGi directives, which is really not desirable. These can be suppressed.

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Phil Steitz
Jim Jagielski wrote: eg: for cli, I find the default help/usage text much too limiting; it would be nice to be able to have that completely under user control with some sort of templating interface. It would also be cool if that could also drive the parser being used (by defining usage formating

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > Hello, > > Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent > pom, and > creates a > manifest file which includes OSGi directives, which is really not desirable. These can be suppressed. However, surely referencing the "apache" po

Re: svn commit: r776006 - /commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, c...@apache.org wrote: > Author: ceki > Date: Mon May 18 16:47:32 2009 > New Revision: 776006 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=776006&view=rev > Log: > name correction Huh? > Modified: > commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml > > Modified: commons/sandbox/

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, and creates a manifest file which includes OSGi directives, which is really not desirable. I changed the contents of the name element to "Commons Logging". sebb wrote: Thanks, although IMO it would hav

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
eg: for cli, I find the default help/usage text much too limiting; it would be nice to be able to have that completely under user control with some sort of templating interface. It would also be cool if that could also drive the parser being used (by defining usage formating string, the matching p

Re: [CLI] 1.2 [Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects]

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On May 18, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpCompone

[CLI] 1.2 [Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects]

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> >> HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The >> only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpComponents Core >> (fitting Stephen's suggestion of a ne

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
What kind of work are we talking about? ie) What's the sandbox karma for - we're nosy and like to hear about ideas :) For CLI/DBCP - if it's a lot of work then that's a good place to work on things in the sandbox. If rather it's some bugfixes, then best is to attach them as patches to JIRA issue

Re: [sanselan] Next steps

2009-05-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
So where are we now with moving/graduating Sanselan? Regards Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > > sebb wrote: > > > On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > > > > > > > sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: > > > > > > > > Implementation-Title: commons-logging > > > > Implementation-Vendor: The A

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > From: Ceki Gulcu > Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY > To: "Commons Developers List" > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:14 AM > > > Matt Benson wrote: > > >>> For the actual "source code", see > >>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/common

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache Implementation-Version: 0.0.0-EMPTY

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > > sebb wrote: > > > > > It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: > > > > Implementation-Title: commons-logging > > Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation > > Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache > > Implementation-Versi

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache Implementation-Version: 0.0.0-EMPTY Specification-Title: commons-logging Specificatio

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Matt Benson wrote: For the actual "source code", see https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/ Just to point out: the final location of this "code" should AIUI BE a branch under logging/branches... the current structure isn't harming anything at the moment, however

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
nicolas de loof wrote: The POM should include SCM path, url to commons-logging site and licensing metadata Done. Note that I've used the url for for svn in commons/proper/trunk. Maybe you could also include the blog extract as description / comment. The description explains the jar is empty

request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
If possible, I'd like karma for commons-sandbox. Also, I will doing some work on cli and dbcp (to start) and if the PMC would like to give me prelim-karma for that as well, that would be appreciated :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: d

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, nicolas de loof wrote: > From: nicolas de loof > Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY > To: "Commons Developers List" > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:39 AM > The POM should include SCM path, url > to commons-logging site and licensing > metadata > > Maybe you

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > Hello all, > > I have created an empty Maven project with groupId "commons-logging", > artifactId "commons-logging" and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very > little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be > expected as the original aim w

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jörg Schaible wrote: > From: Jörg Schaible > Subject: Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects > To: dev@commons.apache.org > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 2:19 AM > Matt Benson wrote at Sonntag, 17. Mai > 2009 22:31: > > > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Matt Benson > wrote: > >> --- O

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread nicolas de loof
The POM should include SCM path, url to commons-logging site and licensing metadata Maybe you could also include the blog extract as description / comment. The description explains the jar is empty but not why it is there 2009/5/18 Ceki Gulcu > Hello all, > > I have created an empty Maven proje

commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, I have created an empty Maven project with groupId "commons-logging", artifactId "commons-logging" and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be expected as the original aim was to produce an empty jar file. For the actual

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpComponents Core (fitting Stephen's suggestion of a new name). Well, this is kinda appropriate because I really have so

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
Thanks ^^ On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > The link from: > http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is > > working correctly. > > > > The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. > > This link points to "proper" instead

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is > working correctly. > > The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. This link points to "proper" instead of "sandbox" Cheers

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is working correctly. The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. Thanks for updating. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin < robertburrelldon...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Mo

Re: [resources] Supported Build Tools

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: > Planning to do so :) will jump the JIRA once I return today, let me know if > there is something specific I can help with. cool i don't have any specific tasks (other than JIRA) ATM but if anyone does, hopefully they'll jump in... - robert -

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: > The repository link still doesn't work: > > ViewVCException: 404 Not Found: commons/proper/resources/trunk: unknown > location it still looks fine to me :-/ i have "Last Published: 17 May 2009". what do you have? - robert -

Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-18 Thread Sam Halliday
Excellent :-) I think the consensus is to keep the sparse interfaces empty for now... don't want to lock ourselves into anything without detailed discussion, which there is no time for before 2.0. Just drop a note into the Javadocs to the effect that methods may be added in the next release. I c

Re: svn commit: r775434 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 16/05/2009, bay...@apache.org wrote: > Author: bayard > Date: Sat May 16 08:36:51 2009 > New Revision: 775434 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=775434&view=rev > Log: > Letting PMD know we're on 1.5 > > Modified: > commons/proper/lang/trunk/pom.xml > > Modified: commons/prope

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2009-05-18, sebb wrote: > On 15/05/2009, Oliver Heger wrote: >> I think md5 checksums are required for all artifacts. They are currently >> missing. > Agreed. > Could perhaps add sha1 as well, but not essential md5s and sha1s are now there and match. sha512 might be a good addition going

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2009-05-14, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > [X] +1 release it > [ ] +0 go ahead I don't care > [ ] -1 no, do not release it because +1, go ahead. some of the tests fail occasionally on my Windows box but this is an issue of the tests, not the code itself (some timing problems). Stefan --

Re: Fix for race condition in forceMkdir

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, of which project are you talking about? VFS? Please put the components name in your subject, like: [vfs] Fix for race condition in forceMkdir to be heard. The issue is not attached to the mail. Please make sure you additonally added it to a Jira issue. if there is none, please create one :-) A

AW: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Struberg
good point. > The "correct" groupId should be org.apache.commons Sadly this is true for a few projects like commons.lang, but it's not true for all projects, since a few commons projects already use the 'correct' groupId. Also, this approach would not scale in the future. LieGrue, strub

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
Ralph Goers wrote at Montag, 18. Mai 2009 09:53: > > On May 18, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> >> >> I think we more or less all agree that such a new component should >> play nice >> with an older version in the classpath. However, while I am all for >> evolving the current project

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 18, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: I think we more or less all agree that such a new component should play nice with an older version in the classpath. However, while I am all for evolving the current project with a new major release, we have to consider that it is not po

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
Matt Benson wrote at Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009 22:31: > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Matt Benson wrote: >> --- On Wed, 5/13/09, James Carman >> wrote: [snip] >> > The point (at least mine) is that we don't *need* to >> create >> > a new >> > project here. We have the ability (if we jump >> major >> > ver