RE: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Jörg Schaible
Rahul Akolkar wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, James Carman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Benson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hmm, what about "graphmacro"? Have to be careful with >>> "graph" though: without "object" it may be >>> interpreted

Re: [Commons Wiki] Update of "CommonsIncubatorProposal" by MattBenson

2008-04-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, James Carman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps we could ask for an "Apache Commons > > Fastrack" process as part of the Incubator? > > Definitely the aim here I think. Replying

Re: [Commons Wiki] Update of "CommonsIncubatorProposal" by MattBenson

2008-04-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would make a project become an Apache Commons Incubator "podling" > vs. an Apache Commons Sandbox project? New code -> Sandbox. Existing code outside Apache -> Incubator. > Is that something we decide on > a case-b

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread luc . maisonobe
Selon Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I suggest we let Nick have a go at it. +1 Luc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Commons Wiki] Update of "CommonsIncubatorProposal" by MattBenson

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
What would make a project become an Apache Commons Incubator "podling" vs. an Apache Commons Sandbox project? Is that something we decide on a case-by-case basis? Perhaps we could just better formalize the sandbox's charter so that maybe we flag projects as "donated" rather than "grown" inside th

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first-class Expression object encapsulates the specifics of the > > implementation (whether it be a String or some Serializable object or > > whatever). This way, you just code to the commons-expression API > > (

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm, what about "graphmacro"? Have to be careful with > > "graph" though: without "object" it may be > > interpreted wrongly. "beanmacro"? > >

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Henri Yandell
No :) [Damn.. I have to justify that? What happened to "Because I said so" "Because it's hot and will hurt" gah] Jakarta's on the way out as it's a disjoint umbrella. Commons is a joint umbrella [erm... maybe I can't abuse English that way... overlapping umbrella] and is the way of the fu

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't know about this API. The idea behind [expression] is that > > > it's not necessarily string-based (a lot of the impls are, but the

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons IO

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[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons IO

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Re: [Commons Wiki] Update of "CommonsIncubatorProposal" by MattBenson

2008-04-10 Thread Matt Benson
Feedback sought! -Matt --- Apache Wiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Wiki user, > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category > on "Commons Wiki" for change notification. > > The following page has been changed by MattBenson: > http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CommonsIncubatorPropo

[Commons Wiki] Update of "CommonsIncubatorProposal" by MattBenson

2008-04-10 Thread Apache Wiki
Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Commons Wiki" for change notification. The following page has been changed by MattBenson: http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CommonsIncubatorProposal The comment on the change is: Initial proposal for a Commons Incubator New p

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1, good thinking. If things scope grows too large, they can always go > upwards. It's much harder for an Incubator project or TLP to discover > it was in fact too small and go downwards. As Nick's a committer, > let's

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Nick Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > I've been chatting to a few people

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
How about this goes into Jakarta? On 4/10/08, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Nick Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > I've been chatting to a

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Nick Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All > > > > I've been chatting to a few people at ApacheCon about a j2me commons, and > > they suggested I bring the idea to the dev list.

[continuum] BUILD SUCCESSFUL: Commons Monitoring (Sandbox)

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Re: svn commit: r646903 - /commons/sandbox/exec/trunk/src/site/xdoc/testmatrix.xml

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
On 10/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Author: sgoeschl > Date: Thu Apr 10 11:02:21 2008 > New Revision: 646903 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=646903&view=rev > Log: > Adding a page to collect the sucesses/failures for various operating systems > and jvm vers

Re: svn commit: r646842 - /commons/sandbox/exec/trunk/src/test/scripts/forever.sh

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
On 10/04/2008, Siegfried Goeschl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sebb, > > > > But that does not work on e.g. FreeBSD. > > > > Indeed the code will now just create an ever-larger file, not print > > ... to the screen > > > > +) printing the funny dots was just something I ommited to delete - I wan

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, what about "graphmacro"? Have to be careful with > "graph" though: without "object" it may be > interpreted wrongly. "beanmacro"? > Other interesting ideas: MethodPath - you're recording a path through objects via

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without having looked at the code, I'm not > understanding why [proxy] would be a "first-class" > dependency. Seems like it would be optional depending > on whether a client of [expression?] wanted to use the > recordi

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Matt Benson
Hmm, what about "graphmacro"? Have to be careful with "graph" though: without "object" it may be interpreted wrongly. "beanmacro"? -Matt --- James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM, James Carman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Matt Benson
--- James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Akolkar > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't know about this API. The idea behind > [expression] is that > > > it's not necessarily string-based (a lot of the > impls are, but the > > > Javassist on

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, James Carman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If people feel that [expression] isn't the right name for what I've > > come up with, I don't really care (as I said, what's in a name). Bu

Re: svn commit: r646842 - /commons/sandbox/exec/trunk/src/test/scripts/forever.sh

2008-04-10 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Sebb, But that does not work on e.g. FreeBSD. Indeed the code will now just create an ever-larger file, not print ... to the screen +) printing the funny dots was just something I ommited to delete - I want to make a verification to ensure that the script was executed successfully by ens

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people feel that [expression] isn't the right name for what I've > come up with, I don't really care (as I said, what's in a name). But, > the idea of an expression just fit in my mind. I'll try to come up > with so

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about this API. The idea behind [expression] is that > > it's not necessarily string-based (a lot of the impls are, but the > > Javassist one wouldn't be; it'll probably only be available via > > build

Re: svn commit: r646842 - /commons/sandbox/exec/trunk/src/test/scripts/forever.sh

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
On 10/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Author: sgoeschl > Date: Thu Apr 10 08:22:17 2008 > New Revision: 646842 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=646842&view=rev > Log: > Changed the usage of the echo statement to work with HP-UX (thanks to sebb) > > Modified: >

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Nick Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All > > I've been chatting to a few people at ApacheCon about a j2me commons, and > they suggested I bring the idea to the dev list. > I'm one of those people. > My idea was to have a commons library that implemented a

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:21 AM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (1) The proposed API feels like [objectgraphnavigation] rather than > > [expression], which is an interesting subset of expressions, but >

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Nick Burch
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, James Carman wrote: > That sounds more like something that would be a top-level-project, > IMHO. Possibly much longer term, if there was the interest to sustain it! > I could see multiple modules in something like J2ME Commons. I'm sure > there isn't a standard set of "things

Re: j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
That sounds more like something that would be a top-level-project, IMHO. I could see multiple modules in something like J2ME Commons. I'm sure there isn't a standard set of "things you want to do for j2me." I would assume (having never written for the J2ME platform) that there are various categor

j2me commons?

2008-04-10 Thread Nick Burch
Hi All I've been chatting to a few people at ApacheCon about a j2me commons, and they suggested I bring the idea to the dev list. My idea was to have a commons library that implemented all the common things you want to do for j2me, which have annoyingly been missed out of the j2me spec, or are qu

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons Monitoring (Sandbox)

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[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons Monitoring (Sandbox)

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[Collections] .obj1 and .obj2 file types

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
data/test/NullComparator.version2.obj1 data/test/NullComparator.version2.obj2 seem to be versions of .obj files. it's a bit confusing to create new file types - and it messes up various settings and tools - so could these be renamed as .obj, but with a different stem? Or are the different extensi

[Collections] SVN eol-style fix

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
svn ps svn:eol-style native src/test/org/apache/commons/collections/map/TestMultiValueMap.java Needs to be done in trunk; perhaps also in active branches. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mai

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I support this and would like to work on it. > That's great! I would love to have some help/input on this. > Thanks a lot, this is great. I was lost reading the emails in this > thread but the code has made things

Re: [DISCUSS] New Expressions Sandbox Project...

2008-04-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:18 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, does anyone object to me putting this code into the sandbox? No, I support this and would like to work on it. > > I've > > got working ve

Re: svn commit: r646693 - /commons/sandbox/exec/trunk/build.xml

2008-04-10 Thread sebb
On 10/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Author: sgoeschl > Date: Thu Apr 10 01:53:36 2008 > New Revision: 646693 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=646693&view=rev > Log: > Creating a proper name for test distribution, e.g. > exec-test-1.0-SNAPSHOT.zip't Some hos

Re: [configuration] New hierarchical configurations

2008-04-10 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Oliver Heger a écrit : XMLConfiguration and XMLPropertiesConfiguration remain in the main package. Why? The purpose of the package is to group only the SAX readers as they form a hierarchy providing a specific feature, just like the BeanUtils bridge in the beanutils package. I don't know i

Re: svn commit: r646661 - in /commons/proper/configuration/branches/configuration2_experimental/src: main/java/org/apache/commons/configuration2/ main/java/org/apache/commons/configuration2/flat/ test

2008-04-10 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : -List list = PropertyConverter.split((String) value, getListDelimiter()); +List list = PropertyConverter.split((String) value, +getListDelimiter()); Oliver, could you increase the line length setting of your IDE to 120 p