Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
My speculation/suggestion is if you do an experiment by cutting a release (regardless o the implementation) of the common libraries (with higher version numbers) but are compiled and explicitly claim to only run on 1.5+ or 1.6+, I bet there will be more downloads of it than all the other pre-1.5 re

Lang 2.4

2007-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
So, Lang 2.4 is starting to get pretty close. Matt's got his new feature in the works, and I'm going to look through the 3.0 ones for things to pull down (hint to anyone waiting... having a patch is the criteria). There's only one issue needing major discussion currently, and that's: https://iss

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Users use Websphere :) The naive bit is that your vote to stop active development pre-1.5 will fail. Not everyone wants to dump pre 1.5, and there's not enough activity amongst those who want to do so in making 1.5+ updates of the components. Both Collections and Lang have 1.5+ development branch

Re: [COLLECTIONS] status of 1.5 branch

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
> I seem to recall there being a strong view that we didn't want > Collections to be glossy painted with 1.5, but that whole APIs should > be rethought as they contained workarounds to the lack of generics. But can't the library be first moved to a point where one can say the new releases will run

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
> 2) direct all effort and resources towards new development in 1.5; and I mean 1.5+, of course. On 10/25/07, Hanson Char <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Naive may I be, On the 1.5 issue, why not just have a big vote to > > 1) stop active development work on anything pre-1.5; > 2) direct all effort

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
Naive may I be, On the 1.5 issue, why not just have a big vote to 1) stop active development work on anything pre-1.5; 2) direct all effort and resources towards new development in 1.5; and 3) only devote maintenance/backport effort to existing pre-1.5 releases ? It would be a more beautiful worl

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
> a) I hate APIs that force me to think in terms of File/URL and not in > term of streams. It's like not having piping in unix. Well then you would certainly hate TextIterable, for it is intentionally designed to operate at a higher level ie File, Resource, URL. No streams. Just iterate. As a c

Re: [COLLECTIONS] status of 1.5 branch

2007-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Afaiu, the main reluctance is that no one has stepped up and started organizing it. I seem to recall there being a strong view that we didn't want Collections to be glossy painted with 1.5, but that whole APIs should be rethought as they contained workarounds to the lack of generics. +1 on pullin

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On 10/25/07, Hanson Char <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Henri, > > LineIterator is intended/designed to be a hidden implementation behind > TextIterable. It's like putting the cart in front of the horse. > Things don't make much sense if LineIterator is taken out of context > as a standalone public

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
On 2nd thought, encodings do need to be supported, and is now supported :) http://hansonchar.blogspot.com/2007/10/textiterable.html Hanson Char On 10/25/07, Hanson Char <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Henri, > > LineIterator is intended/designed to be a hidden implementation behind > TextIterable

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
BTW, there already exists a public standalone class LineIterator: http://commons.apache.org/io/apidocs/org/apache/commons/io/LineIterator.html Same name but for different uses/intents :) Hanson Char On 10/25/07, Hanson Char <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Henri, > > LineIterator is intended/desi

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
Henri, LineIterator is intended/designed to be a hidden implementation behind TextIterable. It's like putting the cart in front of the horse. Things don't make much sense if LineIterator is taken out of context as a standalone public class - issues of InputStream vs Reader, encoding, closing of i

Re: TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On 10/25/07, Hanson Char <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would anyone be interested in including the proposed TextIterable in > the commons lang or commons io library ? > > http://hansonchar.blogspot.com/2007/10/textiterable.html Things that jump out: * Definitely more IO than Lang. * 1.5 specific

Re: [COLLECTIONS] status of 1.5 branch

2007-10-25 Thread James Carman
Maybe we should set up a wiki page to discuss this 1.5 problem for collections (and maybe other projects). We should outline why we have been reluctant as of yet to "genericize" collections (binary compatibility, serialization issues, etc.). That way folks don't have to try to search through the

[COLLECTIONS] status of 1.5 branch

2007-10-25 Thread Brian A. Egge
Hi, What's the status of the JDK 1.5 branch? It seems the developers are split as to if it's a good thing, and if so, if the API should be different or the same. Most advice I see says to use the collections15 project on SourceForge. What I would like, is a drop in replacement, with binary

Re: [cli] What are the current status for CLI 2.0?

2007-10-25 Thread Brian A. Egge
Hi Nicholas, I helped out getting a CLI 1.1 bug fix release out a few months ago. I've turned my attention to CLI 2.0, but I haven't given it the attention it needs. What I would like to see is a stable 2.0 release, and then possibly a 2.1 release with additional features. Wolfgang Roessler,

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-logging 1.1.1

2007-10-25 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Thanks Oliver, I'll look into why those files are missing. Oliver Heger wrote: Hi, the artifacts look good to me. Building from source also worked fine. The only issue I have is that the jars for the javadocs, sources and tests do not contain the LICENSE and NOTICE files. I think these files

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-logging 1.1.1

2007-10-25 Thread Oliver Heger
Hi, the artifacts look good to me. Building from source also worked fine. The only issue I have is that the jars for the javadocs, sources and tests do not contain the LICENSE and NOTICE files. I think these files must be contained in all artifacts we distribute. Otherwise I'd be +1. Oliver

Re: [all] CI and nightly builds

2007-10-25 Thread Oliver Heger
Torsten Curdt wrote: On 21.10.2007, at 12:37, Oliver Heger wrote: (this may be a stupid question, but I did not follow the setup of Continuum too closely) Not stupid at all. I would imagine the artifacts go into the local maven repo of vmbuild.apache.org Would be nice to expose that properl

[cli] What are the current status for CLI 2.0?

2007-10-25 Thread s29752-commonsdev
Hi, I would like to know the current status for CLI 2.0. Is there anyone working on it? How far does it from for becoming a release? I am considering using it and even working on it. Thanks. Nicholas

TextIterable ?

2007-10-25 Thread Hanson Char
Would anyone be interested in including the proposed TextIterable in the commons lang or commons io library ? http://hansonchar.blogspot.com/2007/10/textiterable.html Cheers, Hanson Char - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

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Re: POLL: Anyone interested in a new CONCURRENT component

2007-10-25 Thread Holger Hoffstaette
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:09:05 +0200, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: > Oliver Zeigermann skrev den 03-10-2007 22:29: >> Right. Such a component would contain evertything that is NOT in j.u.c., >> but still useful. This means it, it would be an addtion, not a >> replacement for j.u.c. >> >> > You mi

Re: POLL: Anyone interested in a new CONCURRENT component

2007-10-25 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Oliver Zeigermann skrev den 03-10-2007 22:29: Right. Such a component would contain evertything that is NOT in j.u.c., but still useful. This means it, it would be an addtion, not a replacement for j.u.c. You might find http://dcl.mathcs.emory.edu/util/backport-util-concurrent/index.php in