Re: Measuring Release Quality

2018-09-21 Thread Scott Andreas
Josh, thanks for reading and sharing feedback. Agreed with starting simple and measuring inputs that are high-signal; that’s a good place to begin. To the challenge of building consensus, point taken + agreed. Perhaps the distinction is between producing something that’s “useful” vs. something t

Re: Proposing an Apache Cassandra Management process

2018-09-21 Thread dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID
I have created a sub-task - CASSANDRA-14783. Could we get some feedback before we begin implementing anything? Dinesh On Thursday, September 20, 2018, 11:22:33 PM PDT, Dinesh Joshi wrote: I have updated the doc with a short paragraph providing the clarification. Sankalp's suggestion

[DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Jonathan Haddad
One thing that's really, really bothered me for a while is how we default to 256 tokens still. There's no experienced operator that leaves it as is at this point, meaning the only people using 256 are the poor folks that just got started using C*. I've worked with over a hundred clusters in the l

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID
Logistics aside, I think it is a good idea to default 1 token (or a low number). Let the user understand what it means to go beyond 1 and tune things based on their needs. Dinesh On Friday, September 21, 2018, 5:06:14 PM PDT, Jonathan Haddad wrote: One thing that's really, really bot

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Jeremy Hanna
I agree that it should be lowered. What I’ve seen debated a bit in the past is the number but I don’t think anyone thinks that it should remain 256. > On Sep 21, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Jonathan Haddad wrote: > > One thing that's really, really bothered me for a while is how we default > to 256 token

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Jeff Jirsa
Also agree it should be lowered, but definitely not to 1, and probably something closer to 32 than 4. -- Jeff Jirsa > On Sep 21, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Jeremy Hanna wrote: > > I agree that it should be lowered. What I’ve seen debated a bit in the past > is the number but I don’t think anyone thi

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread sankalp kohli
+1 to lowering it. Thanks Jon for starting this.We should create a JIRA to find what other defaults we need revisit. (Please keep this discussion for "default token" only. ) On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:26 PM Jeff Jirsa wrote: > Also agree it should be lowered, but definitely not to 1, and probabl

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Jonathan Haddad
> We should create a JIRA to find what other defaults we need revisit. Changing a default is a pretty big deal, I think we should discuss any changes to defaults here on the ML before moving it into JIRA. It's nice to get a bit more discussion around the change than what happens in JIRA. We (TLP

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Sankalp Kohli
Putting it on JIRA is to make sure someone is assigned to it and it is tracked. Changes should be discussed over ML like you are saying. On Sep 21, 2018, at 21:02, Jonathan Haddad wrote: >> We should create a JIRA to find what other defaults we need revisit. > > Changing a default is a pretty

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Jon, thanks for starting this thread! I have created CASSANDRA-14784 to track this. Dinesh > On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Sankalp Kohli wrote: > > Putting it on JIRA is to make sure someone is assigned to it and it is > tracked. Changes should be discussed over ML like you are saying. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-21 Thread Dikang Gu
We are using 8 or 16 tokens internally, with the token allocation algorithm enabled. The range distribution is good for us. Dikang. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > Jon, thanks for starting this thread! > > I have created CASSANDRA-14784 to track this. > > Dinesh > > > On S