Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-14 Thread Robert Coli
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote: > I've been uncomfortable with the amount of features I perceive are > going into our maintenance releases for a while now.  [...]  IMO, > maintenance releases (0.7.1, 0.7.2, etc.) should only contain bug > fixes and *carefully* vetted features

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-14 Thread Jonathan Shook
As a user, this sounds like great news. To see the consensus on this issue is reassuring. For me, release stability and planning are more important that new features. I would rather wait longer for the features if it means I'm getting a solid release. It would be great if there were some clearing

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Jeremy Hanna
strong unbinding +1 :) I think that there were several lessons learned in the 0.6.x line about walking that line. Wrt regression testing, hopefully the distributed tests (thanks Stu and Kelvin and others!) will act as a core for something like that. I would imagine that heavy loads can be uti

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Jake Luciani
+1 I'm also concerned with our lack of regression testing. A lot of this is done by individual committers firing up EC2 clusters and running basic sanity checks and workloads. Most of the bugs we are finding pop up under heavy load. It would be great if the community could identify and contribu

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Johan Oskarsson
+1. Cassandra has matured a lot lately and more users are relying heavily on it in production. For those users, including us, stability and predictability becomes very important. Not including new and potentially unstable features in maintenance releases is an easy way to decrease risk at a lo

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Peter Schuller wrote: > For example, from the point of view of the user, I think that > things like CASSANDRA-1992 should preferably result in an almost > immediate bugfix-only release with instructions and impact information > for users. +1 -- Jonathan Ellis P

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Peter Schuller
> I'm willing to concede that I may have an abnormally conservative > opinion about this.  But I wanted to voice my concern in hopes we can > improve the quality and delivery of our maintenance releases. (speaking now from the perspective of a consumer, disregarding the implications on development

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Ellis
Qualified +1 from me -- I went back and checked the 3 prior 0.7.1 votes, and all of them were canceled because of regressions from the #1905/#1959/#2058 series, which was a bug fix ("make dynamic snitch actually work") not a new feature. It turned out to be more work to get all the corner cases wo

Re: Maintenance releases

2011-02-11 Thread Ryan King
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote: > I've been uncomfortable with the amount of features I perceive are > going into our maintenance releases for a while now.  I thought it > would stop after we committed ourselves to having a more predictable > major release schedule.  But gett