Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-04-08 Thread Dinesh Joshi
On CASSANDRA-15379, I think we would’ve discovered this issue during 4.0 testing and would have needed this bug fix anyway. We just caught it early because you went ahead and tested the feature ;) Dinesh > On Mar 31, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Joseph Lynch wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:27 PM J

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-04-01 Thread Joshua McKenzie
My PoV re: perf: if it's a regression or something that makes a new feature just Not Work, mark it as bug. All else mark improvement and can go in in patch rel. On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:17 PM Jake Luciani wrote: > > I see what you mean, I guess my personal line is: does this work worse than > t

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Jake Luciani
I see what you mean, I guess my personal line is: does this work worse than the previous released version? Seems like that's a yes in this case :) On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:35 PM David Capwell wrote: > One ticket I wanted to bring up is CASSANDRA-15566, this ticket is not a > regression but it i

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Jake Luciani
If the performance issue is a regression compared to 3.11 that makes total sense. And in the case of ZStd since that's new if its unusable without the "improvement" then it also makes sense. I think in both cases though it makes sense to classify these as performance regression bugs. I'll take a d

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread David Capwell
One ticket I wanted to bring up is CASSANDRA-15566, this ticket is not a regression but it is a critical bug. Personally I feel that only regression should go into a freeze so I have a hard time justifying that ticket right now (all known failure modes have been failing since at least 2.1). I gue

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Joseph Lynch
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:27 PM Jake Luciani wrote: > > Can we agree to move the improvements out to 4.0.x? Generally I've been asked to put performance issues as improvements, e.g. CASSANDRA-15379. To be frank though we can't run ZstdCompressor on real clusters without that patch, and therefore

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Joshua McKenzie
wadays. > > > > I would be more than happy to help in any of these activities, too. > > > > Ekaterina > > > > [1] > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > &

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Jake Luciani
; > *From:* David Capwell > > *Date:* 31 March 2020, 15:15:11 GMT-4 > > *To:* dev@cassandra.apache.org > > *Subject:* *Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional* > > *Reply-To:* dev@cassandra.apache.org > > > > What I'm used to is havin

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* David Capwell > *Date:* 31 March 2020, 15:15:11 GMT-4 > *To:* dev@cassandra.apache.org > *Subject:* *Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional* > *Repl

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread Brandon Williams
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:15 PM David Capwell wrote: > Right now I don't see a active triage, but to Josh's point we would need to > know who should first. Without answering, let me ask a question; should I > (non committer) be adding blockers? If you like, yes. I don't think anyone, committer o

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-31 Thread David Capwell
What I'm used to is having two buckets for a release: tickets in the release (if not complete they are blockers), and triage. How this is done isn't important but I do feel it's important to have both. Right now I don't see a active triage, but to Josh's point we would need to know who should firs

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-30 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Regardless of how we indicate optional vs. required for rel, are there strong opinions on who should set that metadata on tickets? Reporter? Assignee? One person? A group of people? On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:04 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > FWIW, I don't care what we go with as long as we can di

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-29 Thread Joshua McKenzie
FWIW, I don't care what we go with as long as we can differentiate tickets that are optional for the rel vs. tickets that are blockers and filter the JIRA board on them so people know where they should focus their effort. The rest of it's just paint colors to me. On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:24 AM M

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-29 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> > Alternatively, we could revert to using 4.0.X or 4.X as we once did to > indicate something is targeting a release vs. blocking on inclusion for it. > That seems to be a more "project JIRA hackish idiom", and one that's > historically been confusing for people. At least with a label it would be

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-29 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
Yeah, the statement "we want to release ASAP" was quite scary to read. Did I miss something? When do we cut GA? ASAP is like next week? What is going on? Help! :D On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 22:00, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > > > since we want to release ASAP > > > Help me understand how to reconcile

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua McKenzie
> > since we want to release ASAP > Help me understand how to reconcile this statement with the fact that improvements and other nice-to-have optional tickets are being created and worked on in even 4.0-alpha as recently as this past week. While *you* and many others may want to release ASAP (inclu

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-28 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
I would personally prefer we simply bump tickets from the milestone periodically. The point of a milestone is to collect tickets we expect to land there, and since we want to release ASAP we should have at most a handful of optional items there sponsored by some community members, so the burden

Re: Idea: Marking required scope for 4.0 GA vs. optional

2020-03-28 Thread Scott Andreas
Yep that makes sense to me. There's still much work to be done to exercise 4.0 builds to identify unknown issues that haven't yet been filed – but those items can be tagged as release blockers as they're identified. 👍 From: Joshua McKenzie Sent: Saturda