Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-08 Thread Clint Byrum
On Jun 4, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > >> i think the best possible solution would be for cassandra to be >> maintained as a release quality package in debian unstable, with all >> external java dependencies packaged separately and available in debian >> unstable as well, but the cassan

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Robert Edmonds
On 2010-06-05, Eric Evans wrote: > So Robert, I am DD as well, and so is Paul Cannon who chimed in earlier > in the discussion. As a Debian Developer and Cassandra user, would you > be interested in joining The Cause? :) sure, if you use git / git-buildpackage i'd be happy to join a cassandra pac

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Eric Evans
On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 01:38 +, Robert Edmonds wrote: > On 2010-06-04, Eric Evans wrote: > > So, the bigger problem here would seem to be one of long-term > support. > > In other words, trying to find common ground between release cycles. > > > > I am (have been) interested in uploading Cassand

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Robert Edmonds
On 2010-06-04, Eric Evans wrote: > So, the bigger problem here would seem to be one of long-term support. > In other words, trying to find common ground between release cycles. > > I am (have been) interested in uploading Cassandra to the Debian > archives, so let's use that as an example: as a d

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Jonathan Ellis
At the risk of repeating what everyone already knows, we (Eric) already have the "make a .deb with all the jars rolled into it" part done: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/DebianPackaging On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: > It certainly would be nice to have it in the main Deb

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Torsten Curdt
It certainly would be nice to have it in the main Debian repo. On the other hand I don't think it's too much to ask to just add a line to the sources.list and have all the freedom of the world. I am personally not a huge fan of the Debian policy when it comes down to jars and java. It's just that s

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Peter Schuller
(To be clear: I'm not a cassandra developer, nor have I yet used Cassandra in a real production setting - though I'm hoping to...) > I'm curious what others think: My estimation is that Cassandra is not a "apt-get install and forget" type of software yet. If you're going to use cassandra, you are

Packaging Cassandra for Debian [was: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu]

2010-06-04 Thread Eric Evans
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:55 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > So I am appealing to you, the Cassandra development community, to weigh in > with your recommendations on making Cassandra and its dependencies available > in Ubuntu. > > Specifically I'd like to address: > > * What is the perceived and re

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread Clint Byrum
On Jun 3, 2010, at 1:53 PM, paul cannon wrote: > > Probably not in cases where people want to use new releases; there is > a non-negligible time delay in getting packages into released or > "testing" suites of Ubuntu and Debian, and sometimes even into Debian > unstable. > > With cassandra being

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread paul cannon
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > The packages uploaded to the ASF mirrors have thus far been stable > releases. Those could just as easily be uploaded to backports.org. backports.org only allows versions of packages which are already in Debian testing. -- paul, the

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread Eric Evans
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 14:53 -0600, paul cannon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Eric Evans > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:55 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> * We will most likely conflict with the Cassandra published debian > packages. Is this acceptable? Suggested solutions? > > > >

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread paul cannon
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Eric Evans wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:55 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: >> * We will most likely conflict with the Cassandra published debian packages. >> Is this acceptable? Suggested solutions? > > Ultimately, I think packages in Ubuntu/Debian can replace the b

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread Eric Evans
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:55 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > I've discussed this on the IRC channel briefly before (handle: > SpamapS) and am interested in hearing what the Cassandra developer > community as a whole has to say about our efforts to package Cassandra > for Ubuntu. I'm ambivalent. ;) Seri

Re: Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread Philip Stanhope
I have only used the modified sources.list approach to make apt-get work. In my case the only java running on the resulting ubuntu 9.1 karmic koala instance was to support Cassandra. What would the preferred best practice be? For example, would it be to have the *.jar files be placed in a priva

Packaging Cassandra for Ubuntu

2010-06-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Greetings, I've discussed this on the IRC channel briefly before (handle: SpamapS) and am interested in hearing what the Cassandra developer community as a whole has to say about our efforts to package Cassandra for Ubuntu. Some of you may know that it is against policy in both Debian and Ubunt