Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-03 Thread Rahul Singh (ANANT)
> > > This is just wonderful and it is an example how it should be done. > > > > Why can not be this done for other CEPs too? What was different for CEP-37 > when docs were written together with the code but it can not be done > similarly for other CEPs as well? >

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jeremiah Jordan
sking for is really not a rocket science and nothing >>>>> "rigid". I am all open to lower the requirements. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not asking for rephrasing whole CEP and present it to a user. I >>&

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jon Haddad
ption of the most common usages and scenarios with >>>> most important consequences and all configuration parameters. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let's take a look at CEP-37. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *https://cas

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Brandon Williams
>>> >>> >>> *https://cassandra.apache.org/doc/trunk/cassandra/managing/operating/auto_repair.html >>> <https://cassandra.apache.org/doc/trunk/cassandra/managing/operating/auto_repair.html>* >>> >>> >>> >>> This is just wonde

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jon Haddad
ra/managing/operating/auto_repair.html >> <https://cassandra.apache.org/doc/trunk/cassandra/managing/operating/auto_repair.html>* >> >> >> >> This is just wonderful and it is an example how it should be done. >> >> >> >> Why can

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jon Haddad
> > > Anyway, I would really appreciate if we stayed on track and discussed the > proposition mentioned in my first email - the end goal is to codify the > need to provide documentation together with the feature. If not provided > together, it might be in a separate ticket

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
e: Thursday, 1 May 2025 at 14:37 To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Cc: Rolo, Carlos , Miklosovic, Stefan , dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION when clicking links or attachments I am opposed to this. T

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jon Haddad
I love the idea of having great docs, but blocking at this point probably hurts the project more than it helps. How about we see if we can find people that are actually interested in working on them? Figuring that out needs to happen regardless. I suspect not many of us want to, or have time to.

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Rolo, Carlos via dev
o decide. @Jon, @Patrick I've tested this with a driver PR from my team, and it works wonders! Cheers, Carlos From: Brandon Williams Sent: 01 May 2025 15:51 To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releas

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Brandon Williams
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:37 AM Benedict wrote: > I am opposed to this. There’s too much imprecision in the “rule” while > simultaneously being much too rigid, and it will be improperly enforced (we > already have lots of rule breaking around modifying public APIs, that > should have discuss threa

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Jon Haddad
ed > together, it might be in a separate ticket which will be a blocker for the > next release. > > > > I might initiate the voting thread for that ... > > > > Regards > > > > > > *From: *Rolo, Carlos > *Date: *Thursday, 1 May 2025 at 12:30 > *To:

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Benedict
@cassandra.apache.org Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them I am bit out of the loop on how/if this would extend to driver sub-projects. Because this makes 100% sense, and in the driver space as well. Looking into Java driver docs and making

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them I am bit out of the loop on how/if this would extend to driver sub-projects. Because this makes 100% sense, and in the driver space as well. Looking into Java driver docs and making others similar would be a great

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-05-01 Thread Rolo, Carlos via dev
! From: Miklosovic, Stefan via dev Sent: 01 May 2025 08:07 To: David Capwell ; dev@cassandra.apache.org Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION when clicking links or attachments

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
@cassandra.apache.org Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION when clicking links or attachments I wonder at what level can we enforce this. What I mean, in modeling testing I have found some odd behaviors that

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
when releasing it. Same goes for all other non-trivial > features. > > > > > > *From: *Josh McKenzie > *Date: *Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 22:11 > *To: *dev > *Cc: *Miklosovic, Stefan > *Subject: *Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before > relea

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread David Capwell
releasing it. Same goes for all other non-trivial features. > > > From: Josh McKenzie mailto:jmcken...@apache.org>> > Date: Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 22:11 > To: dev mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>> > Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan <mailto:stefan.mikloso...@netapp.com&g

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
documentation should be definitely something to think about when releasing it. Same goes for all other non-trivial features. From: Josh McKenzie Date: Wednesday, 30 April 2025 at 22:11 To: dev Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick McFadin
The current state of LLMs has made this a simple task and one of the best use cases. I get writing docs sucks, but I don't think that's much of a burden any more if the tools are applied. On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 1:11 PM Josh McKenzie wrote: > This makes intuitive sense to me. > > In our case we

Re: [DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Josh McKenzie
This makes intuitive sense to me. In our case we could tie documentation to the process of promoting a feature from “experimental” to production ready, though I fear that might leave wiggle room for primary authors of some features to leave them as experimental forever, not desiring to take on

[DISCUSS] Requirement to document features before releasing them

2025-04-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
I am on OpenSearchCon and there was a discussion about the documentation of features. In a nutshell, the policy they seem to have is that there are some minimal requirements for documentation in place for each feature introduced. That way, there is no way (or it is greatly minimised) that there