Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:13:54AM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > May I suggest debian-cd-live or debian-live-cd as a name? That would > be close in name to debian-cd, highlighting its use case. I would advise against these suggestions, because using debian in the name of a loosely-coupl

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 11:23:10PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 14120 March 1977, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an > > external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is > > something that needs to be fixed. >

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Nelson
Greetings, On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > Hi, > > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an > external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is > something that needs to be fixed. > > There is no namespace issue, we are

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 14120 March 1977, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an > external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is > something that needs to be fixed. It is worth noting that you do not declare such things. Such an attitude

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread Jeff C
To further cloud the issue, the Debian website still links to the Debian Live project's website as the source of their live images. Is there more than this one rude individual saying the Debian Live project is being replaced? On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:59 AM, chals wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 a

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread chals
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > but given the situation, i understand that argueing about this hijack is > futile then. > > it would have been more honest to actually talk to us (we're doing this > since almost 10 years now), and take over live-* packages directly, > rath

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-09 Thread chals
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > Hi, > > It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an > external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is > something that needs to be fixed. > > There is no namespace issue, we are building on

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, Speaking as a fairly happy user of live-build, but not a contributor to it. I also don't know anything about live-build-ng yet so it is perhaps worth mentioning that while I always got the live-build support I needed, I did always feel that Daniel was perhaps a bit too brusque with people.

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-08 Thread Michael .
>It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an >external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is >something that needs to be fixed. This is a pretty big accusation. Considering Debian has Live images available through its download page (https://www.debi

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-08 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Hi, It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is something that needs to be fixed. There is no namespace issue, we are building on the existing live-config and live-boot packages that are maintained and

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-08 Thread Michael .
For what its worth I tried to do a clean Jessie-Live install last week and it didn't install because my PC is UEFI. I then downloaded a regular Debian Jessie DVD (and even a Wheezy CD) and they both installed on my UEFI system without any problems. If there are Jessie Live DVDs that will install o

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-08 Thread Fathi Boudra
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 10:40:36 +0100 > Daniel Baumann wrote: > >> Hi Ian, >> >> nice to see you're interested in live-* stuff. however, please >> consider renaming this package (and also src:live-support), it >> invades/hijacks the Debian Live

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 11/07/2015 12:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > There is an explicit reason for this. vmdebootstrap is being extended > explicitly to provide support for a replacement for live-build. This > work is happening within the debian-cd team to be able to solve the > existing problems with live-build. loo

Bug#804315: [Vmdebootstrap-devel] Namespace issues

2015-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 10:40:36 +0100 Daniel Baumann wrote: > Hi Ian, > > nice to see you're interested in live-* stuff. however, please > consider renaming this package (and also src:live-support), it > invades/hijacks the Debian Live namespace. There is an explicit reason for this. vmdebootstrap