Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Mike O'Connor
Kai Storbeck writes: > > I'm a bit perplexed that the module authors have anything to do with > this as long as they are clearly stating their code is released under > the artistic license. The license of the perl module is not the concern. The concern is that we are violating the license of t

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 23:13 +0200, Kai Storbeck wrote: > I'm a bit perplexed that the module authors have anything to do with > this as long as they are clearly stating their code is released under > the artistic license. This is my position, stated somewhat more clearly. The particular license o

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Kai Storbeck
Hi guys, Cheers for the elaborate thread that emerged from my graveyard bump. Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > It seems like the CPAN module authors are going to have to be involved > ("harrassed") somehow, unless "openssl" is considered sufficiently > different from "OpenSSL" to invalidate stanza 5

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 02:32:23PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: > Perhaps you should first get written permission to use the OpenSSL > string in this email thread. Who are you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 14:25 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 06/27/2012 01:54 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > Define "derivative". Until it's compiled, it's not. > > Right. Unfortunately for debian, and any other binary distributor of > CPAN modules, we distribute it compiled. > > > Tha *compi

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/27/2012 01:54 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > Define "derivative". Until it's compiled, it's not. Right. Unfortunately for debian, and any other binary distributor of CPAN modules, we distribute it compiled. > Tha *compiler*. So it might be a problem for Debian except that Debian > is NOT using

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 13:42 -0400, Mike O'Connor wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:52:28PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 12:49 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > > On 06/27/2012 12:38 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > > > It's unenforcable if the modules in question do not incor

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:52:28PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 12:49 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > On 06/27/2012 12:38 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > > It's unenforcable if the modules in question do not incorporate any > > > OpenSSL code and are just an interface to the l

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 12:49 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 06/27/2012 12:38 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > It's unenforcable if the modules in question do not incorporate any > > OpenSSL code and are just an interface to the library. I think this is > > probably the case. > > Eh? How is a b

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/27/2012 12:38 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > It's unenforcable if the modules in question do not incorporate any > OpenSSL code and are just an interface to the library. I think this is > probably the case. Eh? How is a binding to a library not a project that is "derived from" that library? I

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 10:03 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Given that the perl modules in question clearly contain "OpenSSL" in > their names, this appears to only be satisfied under one of the > following conditions: > > 0) a perl module is not a "product" > 1) these perl modules are not "

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/27/2012 09:00 AM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > It depends what "derived from this software" means. The only protection > "OpenSSL" has, in itself, would be as a trademark. I don't think this is the case, but i could be wrong. Trademark would be used to keep someone from marketing and unrelated pro

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2012-27-06 at 07:27 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: [snip] > I don't believe #534338 covered Crypt::OpenSSL::AES. However, i do > wonder whether Crypt::OpenSSL::AES has received permission from the > OpenSSL upstrem for the use of the term "OpenSSL" in its name, as > referred to at: > >

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/27/2012 05:26 AM, Kai wrote: > I was searching for the package libcrypt-openssl-aes-perl. With some > wildcards I > stumbled upon this wnpp bug. > > Was my package (Crypt::OpenSSL::AES) included in your wnpp, or should I > create a > new wnpp bug for this? I don't believe #534338 covered

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2012-06-27 Thread Kai
Hi Daniel, I was searching for the package libcrypt-openssl-aes-perl. With some wildcards I stumbled upon this wnpp bug. Was my package (Crypt::OpenSSL::AES) included in your wnpp, or should I create a new wnpp bug for this? Thanks for your input. Regards, Kai Storbeck signature.asc Descript

Bug#534338: OpenSSL bindings for Perl -- licensing questions

2009-06-24 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/23/2009 02:52 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Finally, i note that the OpenSSL license contains the following stanza: > > * 5. Products derived from this software may not be called "OpenSSL" > *nor may "OpenSSL" appear in their names without prior written > *permission of the Ope