Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf According to the docs if dns=none is set it will not touch /etc/resolv.conf This is what I need /etc/resolv.conf to be (I have bind on the machine) domain example.org nameserver 127.0.0.1 options edns0 trust-ad First Go at this This is

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Pocket wrote: I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf openresolv or resolvconf is not installed no dhcp client is running only networkmanager is installed

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 13:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/21/23 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Pocket wrote: I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 13:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:38:37PM -0400, Pocket wrote: Well the default install for bookworm does install it and use it. That is why I am here. There's no single "default install". Sure, if you just hit the Enter key straight through

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 13:58, Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-10-21 12:23 (UTC-0400): I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf ... Is there something I am over looking? If you're not personally committed to NetworkMangler and only need static networking, then remo

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 14:32, Stefan Monnier wrote: I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf [...] My setup is that I was a dhcp server to give out IPs and DNS info. That way I can control those things without having to do so on every system. Populating `/etc/resolv.conf` from the DHCP-

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 02:10:23PM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/21/23 13:58, Felix Miata wrote: If you're not personally committed to NetworkMangler and only need static networking, then remove it and ifupdown. Systemd provides simple static IP ne

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 14:53, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 02:40:49PM -0400 schrieb Pocket: On 10/21/23 14:32, Stefan Monnier wrote: I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf [...] My setup is that I was a dhcp server to give out IPs and DNS info. That way I can

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 15:02, Stefan Monnier wrote: I agree about that on most machines, but the machine in question has bind running so nameserver needs to be set to 127.0.0.1 and the domain to example.org in the resolv.conf file. Beware: at this rate, you may end up giving us enough info about what you

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 15:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 03:29:40PM -0400, Pocket wrote: I don't get you context here as the problem is simply trying to get networkmanager to quit writing /etc/resolv.conf. The context -- what has certain people confused -- is that most people w

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
Ding ding ding we have a winner cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager search example.org nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ::1 options edns0 trust-ad This make this work sudo cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile [ifupdown] managed=false [d

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 16:46, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:40:49 -0400 Pocket wrote: but the machine in question has bind running so nameserver needs to be set to 127.0.0.1 and the domain to example.org in the resolv.conf file. This is my problem in a nutshell Oh, why didn't yo

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 16:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 02:46:25PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: Also, you should not be using example.org. That is a reserved domain name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example.com I just assumed this was a lie. An obfuscation of the actual domain name

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-21 Thread Pocket
On 10/21/23 17:26, Michael Biebl wrote: Is /etc/resolv.conf a real file or a symlink? If the latter, where does it point to? Michael Not a symlink -- It's not easy to be me

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2023 00:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you're asking us to tell you how to *make NetWorkManager behave* then you might be frustrated. Most of the people on this mailing list don't use it. There are some who actively despise it, and go out of their

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 07:13, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 21 Oct 2023 17:13 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): Why would I register a domain name for an internal network? Any name will do. You could make the same argument if you just makeup a domain to use as it could already be registered or

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 01:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 03:29:40PM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/21/23 15:02, Stefan Monnier wrote: I agree about that on most machines, but the machine in question has bind running so nameserver needs to be set to 127.0.0.1 and the domain to

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 08:32, Dan Ritter wrote: Pocket wrote: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) also currently has the following second level domain names reserved which can be used as examples. example.com example.net example.org Which I take it

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 08:36, mick.crane wrote: On 2023-10-22 13:22, Pocket wrote: I would normally not use NetworkManager on a server system either, but in this case NetworkManager is installed on all the bookworm installation so in this case I choose to work with it instead of removing it. It maybe

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:25 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Pocket wrote: >>> >>> Ding ding ding we have a winner >> >> Just out o

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-10-21 at 17:13 -0400, Pocket wrote: >> I am just using what was installed by my scripted debian installation > > A day ago when people pointed out that Network Manager only gets > install

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
Because the script does what the Debian installer does and runs without intervention Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 22/10/2023 19:22, Pocket wrote: >> What version of NetworkManager is installed with bullseye? >> Maybe a ne

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: >> Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from >> https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do >> >> echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > >> /etc/dhcp/dh

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > >> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:22:24AM -0400, Pocket wrote: >>> On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote: >>> P.S. I do not see any reason to insist on NetworkManager in the c

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Pocket
On 10/22/23 18:36, Lee wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 1:18 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > /etc/dhcp/dhclient

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Pocket
On 10/24/23 12:48, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the 169 block if it cannot find a dns server, [...] IF I can prevent NM and avahi from assigni

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-25 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 25, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Marco M. wrote: > > Am 25.10.2023 um 12:17:40 Uhr schrieb Joe: > >>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 09:01:18 + >>> Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I see lots of people in this sub-thread arguing for >>> cobbled-to

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-27 Thread Pocket
On 10/27/23 07:12, gene heskett wrote: On 10/27/23 00:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: I would have thought that techies understand its origins, and non-techies are fairly unlikely ever to encounter it. That's the thing: if you use `home.arpa` for your home network, suddenly it's exposed to non-tec

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-27 Thread Pocket
On 10/27/23 07:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:29:20AM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/27/23 07:12, gene heskett wrote: I tried to change just this machine to see how its done, and managed to get all the right answers, which did not affect my local network since I generally

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-27 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 27, 2023, at 9:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:59:00AM -0400, Pocket wrote: >>> On 10/27/23 07:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:29:20AM -0400, Pocket wrote: >>>> /etc/hosts &

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-27 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPadOn Oct 27, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 09:30:09AM -0400, Pocket wrote:Sent from my iPadOn Oct 27, 2023, at 9:05 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:59:00AM -0400, Pocket wrote:On 10/27/23 07:50, Greg Wooledge wrote:On Fri

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-29 Thread Pocket
On 10/29/23 12:24, gene heskett wrote: On 10/29/23 10:23, David Wright wrote: On Fri 27 Oct 2023 at 11:13:59 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: You saw my hosts entry in the last post, but again 192.168.71.3    coyote.home.arpa    coyote but after a reboot, domainname returns none, and the /et

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 03:54, gene heskett wrote: On 10/29/23 22:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 30/10/2023 00:08, Pocket wrote: On 10/29/23 12:24, gene heskett wrote: I have also made a very painfull attempt to change my domainname from coyote.den to home.arpa, and finally reverted that, Gene, have you

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 08:19, Pocket wrote: On 10/30/23 03:54, gene heskett wrote: On 10/29/23 22:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 30/10/2023 00:08, Pocket wrote: On 10/29/23 12:24, gene heskett wrote: I have also made a very painfull attempt to change my domainname from coyote.den to home.arpa, and finally

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 08:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 08:19:24AM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/30/23 03:54, gene heskett wrote: [ipv4] address1=192.168.71.55/24,192.168.71.1 dns=192.168.71.1; dns-search=hosts;nameserver; ^ this is incorrect nmcli connection

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote: Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? That is an interesting question for Gene. apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that. I take a bit different opinion from Gene, instead of chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf I work to figure out how to

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 12:43, gene heskett wrote: On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote: Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away from it. You can only make it somewhere near right and sudo chattr +i the files before networkm

Re: Populating IPv6 DNS addresses in resolv.conf

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 09:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello All, I have been following the recent emails regarding resolv.conf. I almost have my system running perfectly. The only thing I am missing is the population of IPv6 DNS addresses. sudo less /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf supersede domain-name "

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 13:09, gene heskett wrote: On 10/30/23 12:40, Pocket wrote: On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote: Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? That is an interesting question for Gene. apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that. I can do that?  The last 3 or 4

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 13:21, Pocket wrote: apt purge network-manager This is what I get running the above sudo apt purge network-manager Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 13:29, gene heskett wrote: On 10/30/23 12:48, Pocket wrote: On 10/30/23 12:43, gene heskett wrote: On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote: Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away from i

Re: Populating IPv6 DNS addresses in resolv.conf

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 15:50, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:18 PM Pocket wrote: On 10/30/23 09:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello All, I have been following the recent emails regarding resolv.conf. I almost have my system running perfectly. The only

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

2023-10-30 Thread Pocket
On 10/30/23 14:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 06:37:48PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:29:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? Gene writes: Std image d

Re: locate question

2023-11-07 Thread Pocket
On 11/7/23 11:32, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug that killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10. Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and all its subs with assorted names ending i

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

2023-11-07 Thread Pocket
On 11/7/23 11:03, Nicolas George wrote: John Hasler (12023-11-07): Try to edit one. Try to edit /dev/zero. I once edited /dev/null ;} -- It's not easy to be me

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

2023-11-07 Thread Pocket
On 11/7/23 15:54, Karen Lewellen wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote: Karen Lewellen wrote: Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am wondering if the focus is on the business definition of

Re: Password managers

2023-11-09 Thread Pocket
On 11/9/23 11:05, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Folks: I have a bash/GPG based password manager I wrote years ago, but I'd like to use something more "accepted/popular". The problem I have with the other password managers I've looked at is that you can store a very limited amount of informati

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 12:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: Are these 2TB SSDs or hard disks? I would counsel very strongly indeed against using any ARM-based single board computer as a RAID device on USB connections - they're just *not* up to it. I don't think the issue is whether they're ARM based. The issue

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 13:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, zero issues. The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered USB hub. Hmm... so maybe the USB connection is not directl

Re: Part II BIN=? AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 17:42, Timothy Butterworth wrote: On November 11, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > >dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin bs=1M > >Good afternoon > >This did work > >Thank You. > >But now the bin. > >I did > >chmod +x dvd.bin > >./dvd.bin > >This did not work. Are you

Re: Part II BIN=? AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 18:19, Timothy Butterworth wrote: On November 11, 2023, at 5:54 PM, Pocket wrote: > > >On 11/11/23 17:42, Timothy Butterworth wrote: > >On November 11, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > >> >> >>dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin bs=

Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Pocket
On 11/18/23 07:44, Paul M Foster wrote: Folks: After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in. I could run a POP server, a

fscrypt a usb drive?

2023-11-27 Thread Pocket
I am trying to use fscrypt to encrypt then be able to mount and umount it Then fscrypt unlock to access it I have been unable to do so in that after I mount the drive and setup fscrypy I then have to create another directory under the mount point. The USB drive was formatted like this: mkfs

Re: fscrypt a usb drive?

2023-11-28 Thread Pocket
On 11/28/23 05:25, Max Nikulin wrote: On 28/11/2023 00:09, Pocket wrote: mount /dev/sdd1 /home/fscrypt fscrypt setup fscrypt encrypt /home/fscrypt I am unsure if it is possible to use fscrypt for whole filesystem since it needs .fscrypt unencrypted. ext2 driver might need access to lost

Re: fscrypt a usb drive?

2023-11-28 Thread Pocket
On 11/28/23 06:27, Max Nikulin wrote: On 28/11/2023 18:12, Pocket wrote: Not really looking to encrypt the whole file system.  As another project I want to try making the root filesystem mostly read only. You may mount a partition encrypted using LUKS2 by providing a passphrase during

Re: fscrypt a usb drive?

2023-11-28 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2023, at 7:32 AM, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 28/11/2023 19:03, Pocket wrote: >>> On 11/28/23 06:27, Max Nikulin wrote: >>> >>> *Login* protector used by pam_fscrypt is a different case. >>> >> Well I will

Mailing List

2023-12-01 Thread Pocket
Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list? Have received any messages since Nov 30 I can not tell if I am still subscribed I get Error: Overload On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page -- It's not easy to be me

Re: Mailing List

2023-12-02 Thread Pocket
On 12/1/23 11:36, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Pocket wrote: Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list? Have received any messages since Nov 30 I can not tell if I am still subscribed I get Error: Overload On thehttps://lists.debian.org/users.html page Looks like I

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-04 Thread Pocket
On 12/4/23 03:58, gene heskett wrote: On 12/3/23 20:06, jeremy ardley wrote: On 4/12/23 08:51, jeremy ardley wrote: |ntpq -p timedatectl status chronyc sources or if you are hardcore sudo tcpdump -i any port 123 | Sorry, something screwed up the list One or more of: ntpq -p timeda

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-04 Thread Pocket
On 12/4/23 07:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:55:25AM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/4/23 03:58, gene heskett wrote: I have this printer getting its time info from this machine's ntpsec but the chrony in the printer is ignoring /etc/timezone, stuck in PST or 4 hours behi

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-04 Thread Pocket
On 12/4/23 15:28, gene heskett wrote: On 12/4/23 07:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: ls -hal /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Nov  1 18:21 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT And using mc to edit that link fixed it, I am now getting the correct time from date, thank you a lot.

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-05 Thread Pocket
On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: For gene.. [...] zone=EST5EDT zoneinfo=/usr/share/zoneinfo localtime=/etc/localtime timezone=/etc/timezone profile=/etc/profile.d if [ -e "$zon

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-05 Thread Pocket
On 12/5/23 12:21, gene heskett wrote: On 12/5/23 11:38, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: For gene.. [...] zone=EST5EDT zoneinfo=/usr/share/zoneinfo localtime=/etc/localtime timezone=/etc/timezone profile

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 07:22, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: For gene [...] dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 10:07, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 20:08, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 07:22, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 00:03, Pocket wrote: On 12/5/23 11:37, Max Nikulin wrote: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata That does not work. Cannot set EST5EDT.  you have to do that manually. Do

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 11:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Well POSIX has worked for me since the days of Xenix and System V. Well, most of the goofy time zone changes were all *before* that. But there's at least one that happened more rec

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 11:42, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/12/2023 12:22, David Wright wrote: On Tue 05 Dec 2023 at 23:37:31 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: I am surprised that POSIX EST5EDT timezone has irregularities at least as it is implemented in GNU libc. I believed that it specifies just standard and summ

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 12:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 12:06:04PM -0500, Pocket wrote: From the README The information in the time zone data files is by no means authoritative; fixes and enhancements are welcome.  Please see the file CONTRIBUTING for details I take that as chaos

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 12:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:40:00PM -, Curt wrote: POSIX format specification The POSIX time zone format is the traditionally used format for AIX systems and provides a slight performance advantage over the Olson time zone format. Example of

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
 Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2023, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: >> TZ=POSIX;date >> Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 > > "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you&

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 15:41, David Wright wrote: On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 13:27:40 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: TZ=POSIX;date Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're just

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 15:28, David Wright wrote: Likely none for times present and future, unless Eric Adams should pass a timezone bill. (In the 2010s, several U.S. states considered legislation to move from the Eastern Time Zone to Atlantic Standard Time, allegedly.) But I've already posted an example i

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 18:28, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:50:50PM -0500, Pocket wrote: Well since I am not going to set any of my systems to a time in 1920, then I believe I am save from the time machines. It's not just about your system's current time. It's about

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:11:16PM -0500, Pocket wrote: Because DST was not in force/usage except the metro NYC. Every where else didn't use/have it. That makes EST5DST correct except for NYC and America/New_York completely incorrect except of c

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference I've *ever* found, other than Pocket's email, has said that America/New_York is corr

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-06 Thread Pocket
On 12/6/23 19:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:37:32PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: So, basically every reference I can find, and every reference

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Pocket
On 12/7/23 07:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:46:50PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 18:16:42 (-0500), Pocket wrote: Which BTW this whole discussion about timezones is just water over the dam. The system should be set to UTC, the "timezone"

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Pocket
On 12/7/23 09:22, John Hasler wrote: Greg writes: You'd think that you can determine the length of the test by subtracting the start time from the end time, right? That would have worked had the times been stored as UTC (better yet, TAI or Unix time since UTC can cause a similar problem). Da

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 00:05, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: AND (horrors) have written it down. That's the right thing to do. Well you could always use the universal password of password I use for example i use the following for the root account the password is root for my user account of p

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 13:13, John Hasler wrote: Too bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls. Phones now a days are not expected nor intended to make phone calls -- It's not easy to be me

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 16:53, David wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 21:45, Paul M Foster wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to view, viewi

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Linux/Unix filenaming specs would like to inform you.

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:41, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Linux/Unix filenaming

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:41:57PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and m

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 18:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:59:58PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: cc(1) looks at the file extension to decide what kind of content each named argument file is expected to contain. No it looks for a suffix So Debian files

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:50:04PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Greg writes: cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not care about extensions. What do you consider "the OS"

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-09 Thread Pocket
On 12/9/23 01:29, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 7:56 AM Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 00:05, John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: >> AND (horrors) have written it down. > That's the right thing to do. Well you could always use the univ

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-10 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:05 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 16:29:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: >>> On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: I'm on Debian boo

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-11 Thread Pocket
On 12/11/23 06:39, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-12-08 17:06:15 -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 16:53, David wrote: Hi, the filename extension is usually irrelevant on Linux, because Linux tools typically use the standard 'file' command to inspect the content of the fileinstead

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-11 Thread Pocket
On 12/11/23 07:12, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-12-10 15:51:02 -0500, Pocket wrote: On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:05 PM, David Wright wrote: ¹ Re the argument raging in this thread about "extension", the term is clearly appropriate, as a glance at /etc/mime.types demonstrates. The

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-11 Thread Pocket
On 12/11/23 09:04, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-12-11 08:16:30 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: 2) When *receiving* email, mutt will use the sender's MIME type label to decide how to deal with the attachment. But the notion of filename extension is even used in this context too. Quoting the

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-11 Thread Pocket
On 12/11/23 09:34, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-12-11 15:16:57 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 02:58:01PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I do not care about the "microsoft world", and I doubt that this is required there at the low level (what would be the equivalent of

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-11 Thread Pocket
On 12/11/23 09:52, David Wright wrote: On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 15:51:02 (-0500), Pocket wrote: On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:05 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 16:29:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11

Re: The bug

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 10:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 04:13:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:10:37AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is saf

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 10:26, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 seconds BEFORE t

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:20, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/23 11:51, Pocket wrote: On 12/13/23 10:26, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that wan

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:47, Nicolas George wrote: Pocket (12023-12-13): If the RAID controller Then use software RAID with a Libre implementation. Nope been there done that and I ain't doing that I found it is better to just have my data on several backup disks Yeah, backups and RAID ar

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 13:50, Dan Ritter wrote: Pocket wrote: Many reasons If the RAID controller bites the bullet you are usually toast unless you have another RAID controller (same manufacturer and type) as a spare. mdadm, zfs and btrfs all lack this problem. Not for me as I am not going

update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
What formats does certs need to be to work with update-ca-certificates? PEM or DER? I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scripts allow me to become my own CA. The man page states that the cert needs to have a suffix of .crt. B

Re: update-ca-certificates

2023-12-13 Thread Pocket
On 12/13/23 20:34, jeremy ardley wrote: On 14/12/23 08:54, Pocket wrote: I have just finished writing some scripts to generate certs for my email server and nginx server. The scripts allow me to become my own CA. You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use lets

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