Re: [Fwd: [LIP] Fw: Boycott Caldera/SCO Products]

2003-03-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:55 am, Sharninder wrote: > Hi, > This, therefore, is a call to boycott all Caldera and SCO products. > Do not use or recommend the use of: > > * Caldera OpenLinux > * SCO Linux > * SCO OpenServer > * SCO UnixWare So wouldn't that also mean boycotting OSDN -- sites lik

Re: Iptables is driving me nuts (beginner)

2003-03-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 07:32 am, Organ Grinder wrote: > Hi > > If you want, give me information about what you do and dont want to > allow thro, I'll create the rules for you in a email and explain them. > > - Regards - > > Organ Grinder You know, it would help A LOT of us if yo

Re: KDE vs. Gnome

2003-03-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 13 March 2003 09:54 am, GBV wrote: > Hi all, > > I prefer KDE, Gnome seens obsolete, and using gtk lib i´m able to use Gnome > appz on KDE with no problems at all, > > My objective with this message is to gather advantages and disvantages of > this two great softwares.. > > Post your us

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:06 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The "solution" that they decided on (not yet implemented) is to keep the > aging machines and purchase one new Dell machine with WinXP/OfficeXP. > Their rationale: > > 1. Unwillingness to give up familiarity of MS Windows interface > > I e

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote: > John & Peg Pickard wrote: > > As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave up. > > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast > improv

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-21 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:46 am, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > > * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]: > > > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a > > > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast &

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 11:14 am, you wrote: > #include > > * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 11:39:12AM]: > > comments. You're right. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt. I guess I > > hit a vein of truth and hurts. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 01:33 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:52:40AM -0500, Hal Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote: > > > John & Peg Pickard wrote: > > > > I would STRONGLY r

Has Anyone Used This Debian Book?

2003-01-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I just found this book for almost nothing at a local book discount shop: Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Unleashed by Mario Camou and Aaron Von Cowenberghe Has anyone read or used this book? Several years ago I bought a sister book (same cover, same style, almost same title) for Redhat and it was the book

Converting Knoppix to Woody

2003-01-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've tried a few different installs to get Debian working on my system. At one point I used the HD install script to install Knoppix on my harddrive. It worked, in basics. There seemed to be a few problems, such as menus in KDE (I would think this would be a problem in Gnome, too). If I re-in

Which version of X should I use?

2003-01-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm re-installing Debian on a system. I tried this last month and ran into trouble with the video card (ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder). It turns out the version of X in the current stable branch does not support my card well. The previous version supported it and 4.2 supports it. So am I better o

Re: columbia -- what really happened

2003-02-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 03 February 2003 05:25 pm, Peppe wrote: > > Bush has given Saddam two weeks to prove he had nothing to do with the > > Shuttle disaster, or he will nuke them back to the Stone Age. > > This is the freedom that Bush likes so much... > But is this only Bush's freedom or is it freedom of the

Re: [OT] Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 03 February 2003 11:45 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 21:46, Pigeon wrote: > > Alchemy is an interesting example... Of course, alchemy itself is > > possible, because people used to do it. They were called alchemists. > > The fact that they never achieved their fabled

Re: columbia -- what really happened

2003-02-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 01:05 am, Brian Nelson wrote: > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 3) Please, all those in other countries, do not hold Dub-ya up as an > > example, or an American ideal. Far less than 1/2 of elegible voters > > voted him into o

2 apt-get questions

2003-02-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
I know this should be very simple and easy to find, but I'm having trouble answering these two questions. I've been through the apt-get man page a few times. Since I'm trying to do something on a "one-time-only" basis, this shouldn't be a config problem -- I'd expect it to be available as a co

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 04:09 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:08:52AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > 1) How can I specify the source site to use to retreive a specific > > package? (In this case, I added download.kde.org with all the info to > >

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:06 am, Svein Ove Aas wrote: > torsdag 6. februar 2003, 07:08, skrev Hal Vaughan: > > 1) How can I specify the source site to use to retreive a specific > > package? (In this case, I added download.kde.org with all the info to > > point to the

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 04:10 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:28:26AM -0600, Steve Wollkind wrote: > > interacts with apt-get later (I doubt you can uninstall packages > > installed this way with apt-get remove...I would imageine apt is > > simply unaware of them, but some

Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
Now that I finally have a working Debian system, I want to know what will happen if I install non-Debian programs. I know this will vary from case to case, but I'm wondering what the general impact is if I have to install programs that I can't do from apt. For example, Main Concept will be com

Re: requesting help on ATI driver install problems

2003-02-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:06 pm, Virginia Escuder wrote: > Hello, > The attached text file is the output from the XF86Config-4 utility. > We have the Card called: ATI Tech INc. Rage 128 Pro TF and this one seems > not to be in the the list attempted by the installation (in the text). > Monitor

Re: Knoppix?

2003-02-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:39 pm, Srinivasan Ranganathan wrote: > stan wrote: > > Would it make sense to isntall Knoppix, planing to follow Debian testing? > > Using that now. Works like a charm. So what did you do? Use the HD install script in Knoppix, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and do a di

Re: please help with installation

2003-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:42 am, Fer'had Erdogan wrote: > I'm new to Debian and to Linux. I'm trying to get it going on my a > machine but I'm stuck. When it says "installing base system - please > wait" (after configuring network) it starts writing some files in and > gives an error message

Re: please help with installation

2003-02-12 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:38 am, Hugo Portela wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:42 am, Fer'had Erdogan wrote: > > > I'm new to Debian and to Linux. I'm trying to get it going on my a > > > machine but I'm stuck. When it says "installing base system - please > > > wait" (after confi

Re: OT Knoppix installation

2003-02-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
There's an HD install script. I think it's in /usr/local/bin. If not, it's in something close to that. I think it's called hd-install. Hal On Friday 14 February 2003 11:17 am, stan wrote: > I have a new laptop, and I was planing on istalling Koppix to take advantge > of it's _great_ hardware

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 09:23 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:42:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:07:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > Gods, whyinhell would you need X in order to install a distribution? > > > That's just silly. > > > > That's

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:22 pm, Kent West wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > > >While some people do better with a command line interface, others do much > >better with an intuitive or graphical interface. > > > > >Some people > >learn and take in

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every > > distro that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI > > installer (and many other

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > If Henry Ford had your attitude, autos would have never been for more > > than mechanics. > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 29 March 2003 12:04 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > Why? The *user* has zero business installing the box. Yes, Joe Moron > > > ben

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:23 pm, Tom Massey wrote: > * John Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-03 13:09]: > > what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used > > something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language > > documents. > > I've written a couple of 50,0

Problems with Install of Woody from CD (and Network)

2002-12-24 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've been running a LAN based on Mandrake Linux for over a year (including a box or two w/ Win2K, using Mandrake w/ Samba as a PDC and handling logins for Win2k). I've been very interested in switching to Debian for a while, since I've heard so many people talk about how easy it is to upgrade p

Re: Problems with Install of Woody from CD (and Network)

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
WARNING: Long post (I thought I should include all original references!). On Wednesday 25 December 2002 05:59 am, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 11:06:21PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Help or info on any of these issues would be greatly appreciated. I > > posted

Re: USB MagicOk

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've noticed the same problem on a Mandrake system I have. I had times when I had a SanDisk Cruzer (ramdrive) and a USB floppy plugged into the USB ports and there was no way (without doing an "ls") to distinguish which was which. The first one plugged in was always /dev/sda, the 2nd /dev/sdb.

Problem with blank screen w/ ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I finally got Debian to install -- the packages that could not install were all in Tasksel's "desktop" selection. When selecting modules to load, I selected ATI Radeon for DRM, and selected ATI Radeon (I can't remember if it said ATI Radeon or just Radeon) for the video card. I've tried instal

New Install (Video and DeMuDi apt-get problems)

2002-12-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
I cheated on my install (I've posted a few quesitons on it). I booted Knoppix (for those that don't know, Knoppix is a CD-based, Debian-based distro) and used the install script to copy it over to my hard drive. Now X works perfectly with my ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder. For several reasons, I wo

X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
Two mouse questions: 1) Can someone confirm for me (I'm having strange troubles, again...) that if I have a mouse port (ATX mobo w/ keyboard and mouse ports above each other), that it is configured as /dev/psaux (no serial connection, no USB for the mouse -- just the mouse port next to the key

Getting a Higher Version w/out upgrading

2002-12-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm still having problems with my ATI card. I know it's worked fine under XFree86 4.2, but Woody has X 4.1. How can I upgrade to X 4.2 w/out upgrading anything else or moving to unstable? Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Re: Getting a Higher Version w/out upgrading

2002-12-31 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 12:25 am, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I'm still having problems with my ATI card. I know it's worked fine under > XFree86 4.2, but Woody has X 4.1. How can I upgrade to X 4.2 w/out > upgrading anything else or moving to unstable? > > Hal Thanks to a

Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library

2003-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and Mirror Magic. Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared ojbect file: No such file or directory I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3, bu

Anyone Here Know How to Access Demudi?

2003-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
I posted this to the DeMuDi mailing lists, but since that list has almost no traffic (and the demudi.org and agnula.org sites are down -- again!), I thought I might actually get a response if I posted it on this list: I added the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list that the Demudi site specifies to

Re: XP oerrating system

2003-01-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 03 January 2003 10:54 am, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 05:31:03AM -0800, Beatrice I. Smith wrote: > > I have the XP home operating system on my PC. Is it possible to > > install the Debian Linux OS on this pc? > > Most likely. Linux supports all common hardware, so

Re: Radeon Mobility M6/LY problem

2003-01-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
It took me a week to get Debian to work with my ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder whenever I started X. I finally changed the line in /etc/apt/sources.list so it would take the testing debs instead of the stable, did apt-get update, then apt-get x{whatever else they stuck on the name for x-common and st

Re: [OT] X-friendly KVM switch?

2005-05-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 01 May 2005 09:38 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > I'm looking for an X-friendly PS/2-style KVM switch. Currently, I > have a Belkin 4-port Omniview E series, and whenever I switch back to > X from another system, the mouse goes all crazy and I have to > ctrl+alt+backspace. > > Anyone have

Re: apt-get install mysql

2005-05-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 05 May 2005 03:32 pm, Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG wrote: > I am trying to apt-get install mysql but I cannot find the software package > deb. I get the error: > > Package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. > This may mean that the package is missing, has been

Re: spyware

2005-05-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 12:43 am, Brandon Richards wrote: > Anyone on this list still running windows might want to check it for > spyware. I got about 8-9 hits on mine which is not good. I think it > came from the woman who asked about the windows key. She definitely > needs to check cuz her

Re: [OT] Debian is ugly -- package for beautification?

2005-05-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 May 2005 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2005-05-15, Alex Malinovich penned: > > On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:42 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > >> On 2005-05-14, Ron Johnson penned: > >> > Prettier??? Is that what's keeping your SO from using Linux? > >> > >> Stereotype much? >

Re: [OT] Debian is ugly -- package for beautification?

2005-05-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 May 2005 10:02 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2005-05-16, Hal Vaughan penned: > > On Sunday 15 May 2005 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > >> See, I thought about this, especially because Ron said "SO" instead > >> of some more gender

Re: Open-Source environments for Java (was: Re: java)

2005-05-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 22 May 2005 08:38 am, Rogério Brito wrote: > Do you really need proper Java from Sun/IBM? Unless things have changed drastically in the past year or so, if you're doing ANYTHING with a GUI, yes, you do. Hal

Installing Sarge -- Any reason to wait?

2005-05-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have two production systems that I've been working with. Right now they are on Mepis while I'm testing. I want to change both over to straight Debian for stability. I know Sarge is due to be declared stable in about a week (could that change?), but it might be easier for me to install in th

Re: Installing Sarge -- Any reason to wait?

2005-05-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 30 May 2005 03:36 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 03:24:28PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I have two production systems that I've been working with. Right now > > they are on Mepis while I'm testing. I want to change both over t

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 02:49 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 09:53:53PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from Roberto C. Sanchez: > > > On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:39:25PM +1200, Simon wrote: > > > > How do i start figuing out this issue? > > > > > > Step 1. Switch to P

Re: Will Sid go nuts?

2005-06-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 02 June 2005 10:54 pm, James Ronald wrote: > I'm a Debian noob and don't understand... > Won't , Sarge become Stable, Sid become Testing, whatever ("etch"??) become > unstable? > > Also, this thread is in regard to Sid.. What happens to Sid if not become > testing? > > JR Sid is alway

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 06 June 2005 09:48 pm, p wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing > > that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd > > like to try to make the switch... here's

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 03:54 pm, Christopher Smiga wrote: > I saw this on a mirror site earlier today. > > - > > > Note: 3.1r0 CD image problem > > A bug has been discovered in the 3.1r0 CD/DVD images: new installs from > these images will have a commented-out entry in /etc/apt/sources.l

3.1_r0a CDs 7 & 8

2005-06-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've been trying with torrent, but can't get it to work, so I've been downloading cd images (several local friends need CDs since they have bad connections). Is it just me, or is there a problem with finding images for CDs 7 & 8 for 3.1r0a anywhere? The links are there, at least at the main s

Re: 3.1_r0a CDs 7 & 8

2005-06-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 01:14 pm, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I've been trying with torrent, but can't get it to work, so I've been > downloading cd images (several local friends need CDs since they have bad > connections).  Is it just me, or is there a problem with finding im

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote: > be getting out of hand :) > us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to > Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give > I can understand this bothers you, since many people consider it a point of courtesy. After a

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 03:18 pm, Jacob S wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:34:53 -0400 > > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote: > > > be getting out of hand :) > > > us a lecture on top posting

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 05:26 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:06 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > --snip-- > > > PS Have you noticed that there aren't many people who are top posting > > zealots? I wonder why. Maybe tops posters are just more relaxed and > > chilled out people. :

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 04:35 pm, Hubert Chan wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:34:53 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote: > >> be getting out of hand :) > >> us a lecture on top posting sometime s

Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 10:35 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday June 9 2005 5:10 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > I completely agree. Whoever (the attribution is not clear to me) > > wrote that crap about top posters vs bottom posters is an arrogant > > idiot. Processing information in revers

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 10:34 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday June 9 2005 11:34 am, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > My point (with all do respect and no insult intended): You may not > > like top posting, but all of us on the 'net, even in technical > > groups like this,

Re: Top posting

2005-06-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 09 June 2005 11:16 pm, Hubert Chan wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:16:46 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I saw that, figured it was an attempt to be clever in making one's > > point and decided it was stupid. ... > > Then why did you

Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 01:51 am, Caleb Walker wrote: > When will this off-topic thread die? Going through the list, most of > what I receive is about top posting vs. bottom posting. Who cares > already. That was my point from the beginning, but it seems some people are VERY passionate that th

Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 03:05 am, Basajaun wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Thursday 09 June 2005 05:26 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:06 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I would argue that top-posters fall into the

Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 10:42 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday June 10 2005 12:12 am, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > > Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > Bottom-posting makes reading easier for those > > >who haven't followed an entire thread. > > > > True. But that's the point: making it easier for thos

Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 10:45 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday June 10 2005 12:56 am, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Why it's such a big deal to them, I'll never know, but some people > > don't seem able to accept that different people do things > > differently. >

Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 12:49 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:29:01PM +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek wrote: > I've mused in the past about having a thread-analyser that puts back all > the deleted parts of the message (by following the thread back, of course) > and putting togethe

Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 12:30 pm, Hubert Chan wrote: > I don't believe I was. I was just trying to give reasons for why I > think that top-posting (in a mailing list context) is not a good thing > to do. I haven't been keeping track of who said what in which post, so I don't know if I responded

Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 04:01 pm, Thomas Stivers wrote: > > While I can perhaps understand posting a "That does the job" message for > archival purposes. I really don't understand why anyone would send a > post containing "thank you," "I agree," 'no," "yes," Etc. to a list of > thousands. These one-

Re: I think I have a bug!!

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 01:14 pm, ROBIN KRISE wrote: > I am not very techno wiz on this computer so please forgive my novice > approach. I do believe I have a bug. I tried to access my email at > yahoo.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and it came up with "you have a > bug"...report to but report. I did a

Re: Plonking

2005-06-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 10 June 2005 10:17 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday June 10 2005 8:08 am, Phil Dyer wrote: > > plonk! > > Oh, please. Can we possibly get any more childish? Please don't > advertise your filters, it tends to cause headers to evolve. I have to agree with Paul 100% on this one. I've

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 04:48 am, Basajaun wrote: > > Such > > people had the opinion rock was morally wrong and inferior to all other > > music. They may or may not have been right, but the point is it was only > > their opinion and is generally the opinion of each generation about the > > music

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 02:45 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > Proofreading is a good thing. Why I never do it until the message is > delivered back to me is beyond me. > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Point is that since it is a matter of technical detail, not moral nor > > subjective as all points in favor o

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
re -- in this thread -- today -- in the past few hours. > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > It is not a strawman argument. > > It is. It is a metaphor. In both cases, groups have set themselves up as the authority on what is right and wrong, whether it is a technical or moral argument

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 13 June 2005 09:01 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:15 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --snip-- > > > It is a metaphor. In both cases, groups have set themselves up as the > > authority on what is right and wrong, whether it is a technical or moral

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 12:05 am, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 22:33 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --snip-- > > > you've noticed, I inline post, and rarely top post. I know that is how > > it is done, but the will of the group is not always righ

Re: Top posting

2005-06-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 01:41 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Actually, they are not as objective as one would think. > > Statement with no backup, gotta love it. Gone through that statement several times in the thread. I wrote a number of times about diff

Re: Top posting

2005-06-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 10:07 am, Basajaun wrote: > > Nope. Different scale entirely. That's like saying re-arranging protons > > within a nucleus of an atom does not change the atom, but if you have a > > group of atoms, they can form different molecules with different > > properties depending o

Re: Top posting

2005-06-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 06:41 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:01 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --snip-- > > > No. We are close minded people, like those in the 1950s or before who > > never > > ^^ > > If I see one more post t

Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

2005-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 05:17 am, Alan Chandler wrote: > Ms Linuz writes: > > Alan Chandler wrote: > > ... > > >>So my questions are: > >> > >>1) What tools do I need to develop the application. This includes code > >>editiing, build environment, unit testing, I tried to setup eclipse on my > >

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 05:21 pm, Tong wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:01:56 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible > > I've noticed that many of the answers for this thread suggest to avoid the > blackdown. Any justification for that?

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 24 June 2005 07:13 pm, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Hal Vaughan thresholddigital.com> writes: > > Blackdown, and all the other FOSS implementations of Java are noble > > undertakings and I look forward to the day I can use a completely FOSS > > version of Java on Lin

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 26 June 2005 08:21 am, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 07:37:05PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > make it work. In the long run, I'd love it if I could compile my program > > for Linux, OSX, and Windows, with all executable and library files in one >

Firefox: Converting URLs to kill backslashes

2007-03-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a maintenance manual for an antique car that, unfortunately, can best be viewed with a certain insecure browser on a non-free OS. I've found the main issue with using this in Linux is that the file names are all stored as relative URLs with backslashes between the directory levels inste

Re: Off-Topic Posts

2007-03-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 08 March 2007 09:18, Kent West wrote: > Historically this list has been tolerant of off-topic threads, likely > because such threads have tended to be short-lived. > > However, the off-topic posters (and I have been guilty myself) seem > to have taken this to mean that this list is appr

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 19 March 2007 13:01, Raquel wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:44:38 -0400 > > "H.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just saw this in the following piece: > > http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/murdockint.html > > > > "Ubuntu has certainly raised the bar. They have had a tremendous > > impact on

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 19 March 2007 13:47, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/19/07 12:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Monday 19 March 2007 13:01, Raquel wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:44:38 -0400 > >> > >> "H.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a server running Sarge. I tried to find lame and got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]$ aptitude show lame Package: lame State: not a real package This was after trying to install it just by the name "lame." Then I did this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]$ aptitude search lame p flamethrower - M

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Manon Metten wrote: > Hi Hal, > > On 7/26/07, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a server running Sarge. I tried to find lame and got this: > > > > > > Neither toolame or glame provide lame itself. It's LPGL, d

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
Uh, just ignore that other response. I forgot which e-mail was still on the screen when I hit "reply." It's just one of those days... Hal On Thursday 26 July 2007, Hal Vaughan wrote: > Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions and offers. I've contacted > someone wh

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I know there's an issue with MySQL and permissions with an easy > > work around, but other than that, I want to have time to check out > > known issues before I upgrade a server. > > Wise plan. In

Re: Where is Lame in Sarge?

2007-07-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Manon Metten wrote: > > > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > > Neither toolame or glame provide lame itself. It's LPGL, does > > > > that create a conflict with Debian's social cont

Re: how to set up a wireless network?

2007-08-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 03 August 2007, Serena Cantor wrote: > first, I consider wireless LAN, but I learn that wireless can't > connect computers in different rooms. From Wireless-howto: > > "The most important thing in Wireless communications is the line of > sight clear: you MUST SEE (with eyes or with a bi

Virtual Networking Interface Problem

2007-08-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New routers are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network uses the 172.16.*.* address space. I've had this in my workstation's /etc/network/interfaces file: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.7.11 netmask 255.25

Re: Virtual Networking Interface Problem

2007-08-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 06 August 2007, Anson Gardner wrote: > On Monday 06 August 2007 12:12, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I've been working on a project with some Linksys routers. New > > routers are set to use the IP address 192.168.1.1 and my network > > uses the 172.16.*.* address s

Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a RAID5 on 3 drives with a spare. One drive failed and it rebuilt itself using the spare, then, before I could replace the spare, a 2nd drive failed. I shut it down, got some new drives (bigger to be sure they weren't too small, allowing for differences in drive sizes reported by drive

Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working with USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in using the same order /dev/sd

Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but > > I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. > > I can see several possible pro

Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID

2007-08-18 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/18/07 20:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >>> Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it > >&

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