Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:05:39AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 09:31:39PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:21:34PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> > > >> > I m

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
rew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > I'm a very wildly-liberal guy and I'm all in favor of the draft. Why? > > couple of reasons. 1) it spreads the load throughout the population -- > > barring corruption, the Bush twins have just as much chance as any > > body else o

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:09:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 11:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:05:39AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> > [snip] > > > > in that same vein

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:10:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 01:15, Joe Hart wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/25/07 17:37, Joe Hart wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:55, Joe Hart wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/25/07 16:04, John K Masters w

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:47:19AM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > Given the choice of "Americans" or "Brits" answer these questions. > > > > "Torch" is the shortened form of "electric torch" (provides continuous > light, not flashes). I don't know. When I was growing up,

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:36:51PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > >>$4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be > >>allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery > >> > > > >That's the price of a gal

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:50:16PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:37:29PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > > > Are you suggesting that instead of creating a debian "off topic" mailing > > list, we should create a debian-help list instead, specifically mandated o

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
> > >> Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? so I went looking for how to do this in mutt, without great results. But I found *this* very thread on the first page of google hits! Go figure. anyway, this htt

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:34:30PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > > I qualify as one of the "brand spanking new members" and I say I have > > not laughed so hard in a long time. Keep the OT stuff going > > > Welcome! > >

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:48:08PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 02/25/07 16:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > [snip] > > > Do yo

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:20:09PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:56:51PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:46:30 +0100 > > Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list > > > > > > But does

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning > > of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other > &g

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:08:24PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 13:55, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:36:51PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Michael Pobega wrote: > >>> > [snip] >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:02:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 13:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:10:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 01:15, Joe Hart wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>>> O

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:42:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:53:31AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > in that same vein, I think us congressional representatives should be > > paid the mean income for their district :-P > &g

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:52:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 13:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:09:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 11:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:05:

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:43:40PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:30:23AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > hm.. okay, I see what you mean. Well, first, take the money out of > > politics -- publicly funded elections. Second, provide r

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:57:02PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:18:52AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > This makes much more sense to me. Though I am not in favor mandatory > service, I do know some swedes and turks and they have

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:40:17AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > What I am curious about is how this thread revivied itself after being > > out of use for a couple of weeks. amazing. it mus be going on 3 or 4 > > months now (just a g

Re: IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Roby wrote: > I just installed IceWeasel 2.0.0.2 included in today's > dist-upgrade. Although my preference remains a blank > screen on startup, it starts with Mozilla's page inviting > me to download 2.0.0.2. Nice touch. How do I get back to > a blank s

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > Do you have a proposal for solving that problem? > > Going back to a limited federal government as the founding fathers > envisioned? Returning the states' voice in the fede

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:53:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 13:26, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> > [snip] > >> Then they're controlling me. > > > > I don't see th

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:00:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. > > > Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. > > They'll hedge it by saying that a cat is not human. > > No, the real question is h

Re: SOLVED: Cannot boot using Grub from CD

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:42:12PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:55:14PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > > > >>[...] > >> > >> Error 15: File not found > >> > >> Press any key

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:24:40AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:59 -0500 > John - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: > > > > > Quite a lot of off-topic opinionated political nonsense. > > > > Look, guys -- you kno

Re: #chsh -s /usr/bin/passwd - by misteke

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:33:37PM +0100, Jarek Buczy?ski wrote: > > su -s /bin/bash > > It doesn't work :( > > -- > $ su --shell=/bin/bash > Password: > Enter new UNIX password: > > -- > > $ cgrep root /etc/passwd > root:x:0:0:root:/root:/usr/bin/passwd > --

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:38:49PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Bio-fuels *are* a great idea. > > > > Until you realize *how much* gasoline & diesel this country uses > > (then add 3x more to that for the rest of the world), and the fact >

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:51:30AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > I totally agree. Stop pushing your views on to us! Sign up to a > political, or religious mailing list instead I'm sorry, but I don't see anyone pushing their views on anyone else. I see people exchanging ideas and arg

Re: Re: Debian 4

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:20:44PM +, Doofus wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > >On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:58 +, Doofus wrote: > > > >>When? > >> > >>For the past seven months we've had under the "news" section at > >>debian.org: > >> > >>"Upcoming Release of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0" > >> > >>Upc

Re: working with windows larger than screen

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Can anyone recommend a window manager or a desktop environment which > efficiently handles windows that are larger than physical size of screen? [...] > Is there a window manager which > > 1. effectively moves the desktop o

Re: #chsh -s /usr/bin/passwd - by misteke

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:18:47AM +0100, Jarek Buczy?ski wrote: > > okay, *maybe* this will work. man su says it looks for the shell > > specified by --shell, then $SHELL if --preserve-environment is used, > > then the shell in /etc/passwd and finally /bin/sh. So what if you > > don't specify a sh

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:38:35PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of -^^ dude, thanks! I score geek cred! yes! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
use to be pigeon-holed, I think. Just ignore the obviously marked OT threads. sheesh. When you watch a football game, do you complain because the announce spends a few minutes talking about $OTHER_SPORT? A > > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:27:51PM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hello > > I am actually a user of Xubuntu Linux, but as it is based on Debian, > and here may be more people that are wise on servers, I come to ask > you for help. > > I have 2 computers: one with Xubuntu and the other with Windows XP. > T

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:49:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 16:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:53:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 13:26, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:38:02PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > > Perhaps I should just unsubscribe from the debian, and fedora lists. There > > seems to be less of this sort of crap on forums. At least they are > > moderated. > > But you don't get the expertise. Forums t

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:24:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 17:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also > >> ressurect the one asking for so-called header mungi

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:22:27PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably > >> > >

Re: Installing Debian

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:31:20PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Thomas, > > I am taking this back to the list. It is generally considered bad form > to reply presonally and not to the list, unless what you have to say is > not appropriate for the list. *ahem* > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at

Re: Unsure where to report bug

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:25:50PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:04:52PM -0500, dominijannir wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm running Gnome on Etch (AMD64) and, after today's batch > > of updates, started having the following problem: > > > > Unless the Configu

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:50:43PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ah, ok. Not lame, but wrong circumstances. Maybe if we'd been > drinking beer. /me sets down bottle okay. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:27:42PM -0500, John - wrote: > On (26/02/07 19:57), Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > > > the others to be experts. I don't think any of us is in any danger of > > > quitting

Re: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:42:56PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:16:24PM -0800, Baz wrote: > > Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How > > do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to > > delete aren't ther

Re: growisofs: how to write iso files

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:20:00AM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > Dear all, > > The manual of growisofs says the following line can write a iso file to a > DVD: > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso > > when I ran such command, there's error mesage "mkisofs doesn't recognize "=" > option,

Re: Audio: OSS emulation issues

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:12:57PM +, Nikhil Nair wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on a debootstrap installed etch amd64 system; 2.6 kernel, udev > etc. Audio (snd_emu10k1 module, SBLive! card) hasn't been working > consistently - some applications are fine, one gave a warning message, and > o

Re: How to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n (ZJSream protocol)

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:26:13AM +0100, Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > Hi all. > > I need to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n > > Searching for this model showed that this strange print shoud be a > winpriter using the ZIStram protocol. > > I tried different drivers (the hp 2600n, the 2 gener

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:31:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The hope is that large, well-engineered, monitored power plants can > produce energy in a cleaner way than small, internal-combustion engines. > Whether this is true is a matter of fact -- doesn anyone know the > relevant fac

Re: static IP

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:15:36AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hi Andrew, > What you say here: > > > I'm guessing you're looking at a configuration problem in your > > modem/router *or* your router recognises that the request to 85 is > > coming from inside the LAN and so it serves up the config pag

Re: Subtle but annoying X startup problem

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:07:30PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:30:35PM +, Bob Cox wrote: > > >| my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | > > > > BTW, is a keysever something that cuts keys? Sorry!! ;-) > In this case, a key is a public gpg key,

Re: Apache2 won't remove.

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:12:09PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 21:34:32 +, pChan -- wrote: > > I am trying to remove apache2. But before that, I did something stupid. I > > "rm apache2" in /etc/init.d > > > > So now, if I try to remove apache2-mpm-worker... > > sd-63

Re: Audio: OSS emulation issues

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:38:41PM +, Nikhil Nair wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >[...] > >so, when you reboot, what is the state of snd-pcm-oss? is it already > >loaded so that your modprobe is reloading it? or it is not loaded? >

Re: static IP

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:24:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hi Nikhil, > > > This comment, together with the fact that you're using private IP > > addresses (192.168.*.*) suggests to me that you have only one static IP > > address. Is this correct? > > Yes I have just an ip, let's say 85.xx.xx.xx >

Re: static IP

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:17:35AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hi to all > > I must thank all people here. > > I called for a friend in ubuntu forum, he visited my public ip and got > the Xampp page! good, I suspected as much. > So the server works fine ! > > The problem is that from inside my home,

Re: screen flickering

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:59:38AM -0800, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I am running debian etch. > While booting, when configuring consle fonts line comes, screen flickers. > Any solution to stop this? I believe this is normal behavior. In fact, it should flicker 6 times -- once for each VT -- I believe.

Re: Audio: OSS emulation issues

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:43:33PM +, Nikhil Nair wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >[...] > >>I hadn't - I wasn't aware I was supposed to. I've done so now, > >>removing > >>my /etc/modprobe.d/oss-e

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:24:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:40:03PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive > > > things with my tim

Re: Audio: OSS emulation issues

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:52:18PM +, Nikhil Nair wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >[...] > >I don't think it specifies that its setting up OSS, but jsut does > >it. i could be wrong about what it tells you but to my knowledge

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:54:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:00:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > >> No, the real question is how many pro-lifers have ever gotte

Re: konqueror is slow

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:15:39PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:33 +0100, Cédric Lucantis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > On my laptop, konqueror takes, sometimes, tens seconds to access pages. > > > Since character terminal 'links' web browser quickly navigates

Re: IMAP Mail server question

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:32:01AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/28/07 08:56, Kelly wrote: > > Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles > > about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go > > with. > > What is the purpose/scale of your proposed m

Re: screen flickering

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:54:31PM +0100, Giacomo Montagner wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 14:25 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 10:59 -0800, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > > I am running debian etch. > > > While booting, when configuring consle fonts line comes, screen > > > flickers.

Re: how to send files from a pc to my home server and viceversa

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:55:47AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hello > > Yesterday I was able to run my server. I have 2 computers at home, one > is server and the other is not. Both are connected to router. One uses > Xubuntu and the other Windows XP. > I know Xubuntu is not Debian but it is based on i

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:38:27AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hello, > > I just managed to configure my server and router and ips yesterday and > now I have questions about security. I did a scan of ports and saw the > only open are the ones I opened. I also set my router firewall to > "standard". > >

Re: konqueror is slow

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:28:02PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 14:01 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:15:39PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:33 +0100, Cédric Lucantis wrote: > > > >

Re: linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary > images is documented, other than looking thru the config files or the > descriptions of the packages. > > When I install Etch on my machine from

Re: Where can I get driver for e1000?

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:46:25AM +0100, Jon Ingason wrote: > I am installing Etch on Supermicro PDSME+. The motherboard has two > Gigabit interface (Intel 82573V and 82573L). As I understand e1000 > driver is appropriate driver for this interface but when I install > Debian the installer does not

Re: ssh

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:35:42PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:55 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Ahh. That's what I was afraid of. Having ssh keys without a passphrase > > is convenient, but very insecure. You are better off without the keys. > > For the longest

Re: static IP

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:53:38PM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Thanks Joe. > > I edited the file hosts in /etc/ , and added this: > > 192.168.0.129 localhost note that this looks like a dhcp address assigned by your router. If that changes then localhost won't resolve. You should probably setup stati

Re: OT

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:44:00PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > I think it is just a matter of perspective. These OT threads are > happening now, and so have an immediacy in our minds. After a few > weeks, they will fade from memory and things will appear as though they > have always b

Re: How to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n (ZJSream protocol) [SOLVED]

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:44:21PM +0100, Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West ha scritto: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:26:13AM +0100, Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > > > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I need to print on an HP Color Laserjet 2600n

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:34:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > Obviously that kind of change can't happen overnight. Its an ugly > > problem, no matter how you cut it. > > And that doesn't even come close to talking about the p

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:41:24PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >> Wouldn't this all be much more easily and quickly accomplished if we made > >> the children of politicians automatic first round draft picks regardless > >>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:33:34PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:25:27AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > we already went throught the mean/median thing so, > > > > median household income in my district $43,2xx

Re: No text mode display after grub

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:11:36PM +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > Hi, > > My boss gave me a Dell Latitude D810 to use for work so I didn't have to > use my privately owned Acer Ferrari 4000 anymore. First thing I did was > install testing on it, which was no problem at all. Next I built a > 2.6.20.

Re: configuring fetchmail, exim and mutt for remote access

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:01:43PM -0800, Easthope wrote: > Roberto Sanchez & others, > > At Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:45:38 -050, Roberto Sanchez said, > "Setup mutt on the machine and ssh in when > you are travelling." > > It works as you outline. > POP3 server, is on machine P. > fetchmail, exim, mu

Re: static IP

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:41:19PM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hi Andrew > > Lucky that you said me! > > > > 192.168.0.129 localhost > > > > note that this looks like a dhcp address assigned by your router. If > > that changes then localhost won't resolve. You should probably setup > > static ip in you

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
rOn Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:33:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/28/07 13:19, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:34:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> Obviously that kind of change can't happen o

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:46:15PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > It turns out that when you add the mass of the matter in the universe > > to the gravitational potential energy (which happens to be negative), > > that the sum of the two is "suspiciously close to zero"

Re: Free Physics Textbook (was: Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:26:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > physics: > > http://www.motionmountain.net/ > cool thanks A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 booting process aborted during installation.

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:25:41AM +0900, KUMANOSUKE wrote: > Dear Debian Guys > > I've tried to install Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 with install > CD-ROM, but my PC doesn't reboot during the installation. > > After finished the primary installation process, I removed > CD-ROM and tried to restart my

Re: No Mouse in X

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:42:47PM -0600, Dave Walker wrote: > > re-booted, logged in as root > cd to /etc/x11/ > > less XF86Config-4 to confirm that there were 2 serarate mouse sections > for "InputDevice" and that 2 input devices were present in > "ServerLayout" > one was "Configured Mouse" - t

Re: Upgraded to 2.6.18-4-686, trouble.

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:05:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Whenever I boot into the 2.6.18-4-686 kernel everything works fine, > but when it starts loading hald I get: > > Buffer I/O error on device sr0 after this, I assume the boot continues normally? > > It says this about 8 times. I

Re: Fonts from GDM?

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:12:10PM -0500, Matthew K Poer wrote: > An odd situation: When I start Fluxbox (or any other WM) from GDM, I get > to use the font and cursor set by GDM. > > If I start fluxbox with 'startx' I am given another font and cursor. > > If I knew which font and cursor GDM was

Re: Upgraded to 2.6.18-4-686, trouble.

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:25:32PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:04:02PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:05:30PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > Whenever I boot into the 2.6.18-4-686 kernel everything works fine,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:39:58PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:35:24PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Hybrids are not supposed to get great mileage on the highway. Their > > forte is stop-and-go city/suburb driving. > > > Which is why I said that they were su

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:38:08PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > I wonder: > > > Fedora/RedHat/Suse user -> drives Hummer, big SUV, Lincoln towncar-type > > Debian/Ubuntu user -> drives mid-sized or compact SUV or car > > Gentoo/LFS user -> drives riced Japanese impor

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
two for one: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:38:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are two > > of 'em a crutch for not leaning on your local officials to fix publ

Re: Emailing the system messages to me

2007-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:49:52AM -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: > On 3/1/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 00:36 -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have a Debian Etch as my desktop PC, and i want to configure it so > >> the system messages could

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > On 3/1/07, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a > >separate thread with each e-mail. If I use the "reply" button in > >Gmail, the reply goes to the sender

Re: linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel > &g

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > > >> why do you use "/boot/boot/grub/" and not the defau

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 booting process aborted during installation.

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 03:41:34PM +0900, KUMANOSUKE wrote: > Dear Andrew, [...] > > You're welcome. > I'd like to reply to the list also from now on. > > > The k7 kernel seems to have been installed automatically > during the installation process. > I've got "debian-31r5-i386-binary-1.iso" file

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:22:22PM -0600, Dave Walker wrote: > On 3/1/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On 03/01/07 18:08, Dave Walker wrote: > >> I gave it a try...how's this? > > > >Well, you're top-posting, and that's "non-optim

Re: installation problem with initramfs-tools

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:52:57PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > > Charles Blair wrote: > >>I am trying to install the etch version of Debian on a > >> recently purchased HP Pavillion machine (it has a hard disk > >> that the sarge installer doesn't recognize). > > > >>I downl

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:56:27AM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi All, HI [...] > > X was running after that first stage of the upgrade (to latest woody) > but would not restart once I rebooted the system. I went ahead and > upgraded to sarge anyway, figuring I might get lucky, and could just

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 booting process aborted during installation.

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 02:35:50PM +0900, KUMANOSUKE wrote: > Hi > > I've resolved this problem. > At the first step installation by CD-ROM, I entered > "expert26" and pushed the Enter key at the "boot:" prompt. > Then I proceeded for the installation process, I could > select what kind of kernel

Re: Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:15:57AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:10:11PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: > > > > On my system, the file /etc/udev/rules.d/020_permissions.rules is a > > symlink to the file ../permissions.rules. So, content is the same ;( > > > Sorry. I

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:11:27AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: LA's > average freeway speed over the entire county on any given 24 hour period is > 14 MPH. I am reminded of some sci-fi story, I don't remember who what where or when but... as a part of the tourist appeal of Ne

Re: HOWTO: multi-seat Debian Sid using the stock kernels.

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 02:50:30PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Next question: how many Debian users run multi-seat Sid? > Answer: 18-) > well, in your house, that would be 2: you and your wife. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:42:04PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:55:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 2 Mar, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >> > > > Here is a list of cities to which I have travelled that attempted to > > > put public transportation in pla

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