Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thursday, June 20, 2024 5:09:35 AM CEST, Jeff Peng wrote: I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite solid. Though I have read this article: https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from 11 to

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

On 2024-06-17 15:08:54 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On stable: > > > $ openssl list -disabled > > > Disabled algorithms: > > > IDEA > > > MD2 > > > MDC2 > > > RC5 > > > SCTP > > > SSL3 > > > ZLIB > > > > > > So, SSL3 s

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Am 20.06.2024 um 11:05:10 Uhr schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > I've got a confirmation that their Radius servers still use SSL3, > and they said that they could not upgrade them. Then they have very, very outdated stuff. Talk to the security department at your site, maybe they make them hurry up.

UEFI secure boot issue

Hi, I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the kernel tree and compiled the kernel. Could someone tell me what am I doing wrong please ? Below is the status (I am using loader.efi from linuxfoundation) When i boot debian stock kernel signed, i see that the secure boot

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

The question with Linux isn't if there's a need to update to the latest version (of the distro) like on Windows, but rather what's keeping you from updating? If there's no urgent reason to stick to 11, update. 11 is now oldstable and will become oldoldstable mid next year. Thus, it currently become

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 17/6/24 18:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been 08:13:36 UTC  What's wrong with my system clock. I've not really looked at the time on my originals before.  I'll try

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

that's nice to know. thanks for all your help. about dovecot: if you have dovecot installed from the dovecot repository, then be aware that dovecot does not (yet) provide a version for bookworm. if you have dovecot installed from the debian repository, then you should be fine. about debian:

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html > > is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up the > following code in my text substitution app: > "%a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S =UTC %Z" >

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 2024-06-20 at 07:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html >> >> is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up the >> following code in my text s

MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have Python2 any more. They only have Pyt

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

Software is only tested to a certain degree. So mounts are tested to a sensible number, if you move outside it, you have to bet on luck if it's supported or not. At this point, I kinda doubt this issue has anything to do with Debian itself, but will most likely be an issue/limitation of the Linux K

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

PS: if you maintain your own software and aren't able to find a way for your user to do shares - especially while systems that most likely have such functionality built-in out of the box surely exist, think Nextcloud etc - that is covered by how Linux is supposed to be used, by definition it's pret

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

Greg Wooledge wrote: > As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering > what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes > as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) ... > Or should we burn the entire site down, migrate to some other wiki >

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

On 20/06/2024 08:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don'

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > >> "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is >> more useful. > > FWIW I define dfree as: > > df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x > tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the private key. It is usually supposed to stay private. > Could someone tell

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:08 AM Richard wrote: > > The question with Linux isn't if there's a need to update to the latest > version (of the distro) like on Windows, but rather what's keeping you from > updating? If there's no urgent reason to stick to 11, update. 11 is now > oldstable and wil

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

Hi Eben, Sorry for the late reply. I realise I could've added more details. On 18/06/24 01:31, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/17/24 15:29, Pranjal Singh wrote: Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. ... What I've done is changing /usr/

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: > It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. > > To get a MWE, I made these changes later: > - Exec=firefox -private-window %u > - StartupWMClass=firefox > +Exec=gnome-calculator Did you see Gareth's reply at

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 12:23 AM Gareth Evans wrote: > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > an incognito window by default. > ... > > - Exec=firefox %u > + Exec=firefox -private-window %u > > Assuming that's not a t

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:09:35AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > Hello, > > I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite > solid. > Though I have read this article: > https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release > do you think there is any need for me to u

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 01:38:00AM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > > >  > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > an incognito window by default. > > > > ... > > > > - Exec=firefox %u > > + Exec=fir

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:10:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 12:23 AM Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > an incognito window by default. > > ... > > > >

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

My Debian machines have Xfce. I configure Applications Menu -> Settings-> Power Manager -> Display -> Display power management -> Off. David This is not a dpms issue. This is the OS thinking that it is not attached to a monitor/KB.  I can remote login and remove dpms any time. Besides this

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. > > > > To get a MWE, I made these changes later: > > - Exec=firefox -private-window %u > > - StartupWMClass=firefox > > +Exec=gnome-calculator

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 01:38:00AM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh > > > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > > an incognito window by default. > > > > > > ... > >

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-19 15:45 (UTC-0500): >   I have my monitor, keyboard and mouse shared through a KVM switch. > One host is Linux Debian bookworm 12.5 and another is laptop running > Windows 11. When I leave KVM on the laptop side for extended period I > have issues switching back

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

> > > Assuming that's not a typo, please try: > > > > > > --private-window > > > > Yep. Asking firefox itself (firefox --help) confirms that the > > option wants two dashes. > > See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/CommandLineOptions#-private-window > > or just try it! It works pefectly well

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 20:55:12 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >or just try it! It works pefectly well with a single hyphen. Now, yes. However, at some point, that may no longer be the case. When (perhaps) somebody notices that actually behaviour differ

Re: NVIDIA drivers issue: Bug that keeps presenting on kernel 6.1.0-21

Daniel Rodriguez writes: > The solution of the post to this issue is to update the kernel from > 6.1.0-13 -> 6.1.0.18; however, my kernel is a later version: > 6.1.0-21-amd64, so I am stuck for solving this issue. Do you have any > idea about what may be happening and/or how to solve it? I wonde

About dash as sh

Hello, I've recently come across a bug in dash. https://lore.kernel.org/dash/CAMQsgbSZnEac=ETYnR6a_ysnAysaHThwY03pnoDxC=p5fqt...@mail.gmail.com/T This issue is known for 7 years: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/c6kRE-fhyuM Fix is 18 months old, but unfortunately not release

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Not to recover, but to perhaps prevent, via kernel cmdline, one can direct the kernel which framebuffer mode to force-enable with video=, e.g.: video=2560x1440@60e https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, b

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-20 17:43 (UTC-0500): >> Not to recover, but to perhaps prevent, via kernel cmdline, one can direct >> the >> kernel which framebuffer mode to force-enable with video=, e.g.: >> video=2560x1440@60e >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt > I

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> At this point, I kinda doubt this issue has anything to do with Debian > itself, but will most likely be an issue/limitation of the Linux Kernel > itself. >From my latest tests, it seems to point that way. Kernel 5.4 came with a new mount API and it seems to break since then. During my search,

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> PS: if you maintain your own software and aren't able to find a way for your > user to do shares - especially while systems that most likely have such > functionality built-in out of the box surely exist, think Nextcloud etc - > that is covered by how Linux is supposed to be used, by definitio

Re: Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> This can be solved with ACLs. Instead of creating a bind mount, this process > that allows the user to share the directory can set an ACL and create a > symlink. For a few users maybe but not that easy when you have many thousands users (that on top do not have local accounts). We'd probably h

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On 21/06/2024 00:26, Pranjal Singh wrote: What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Exec=firefox -private-window %u I also created a desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, but that too didn't work. You may file a bug (if it does not exist ye

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives.

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: "the system's time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", and others disagree 🙂 What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting stored as the /etc/localtime symlink? localtime(5) On 19/06/2024 11:37, to...

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "the system's > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > and others disagree 🙂 > > What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting stored

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Did you try 'e' as I suggested, or read that page? From there: [quote] 'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection if a display is connected. [/quote] Ok, I will try it, but that is a reboot. I guess if I booted with that switch, it will always be on and I wou

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-20 22:58 (UTC-0400): >> Did you try 'e' as I suggested, or read that page? From there: >> [quote] >> 'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection >> if a display is connected. >> [/quote] > Ok, I will try it, but that is a reboot. I

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > "the system's > > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > > and others disagree 🙂 > >

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 3:57 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. > > I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the private

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 21:00:38 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 18:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > > 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been > > 08:13:36 UTC  What's wrong with my system c

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:33:22PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: [...] > This is (one) reason why using undocumented features is a Bad Thing™. It doesn't seem to be "undocumented": on the contrary, it's rather "overdocumented" (two different ways in two different places), but thanks to some intrepid

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "the system's > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > and others disagree 🙂 > > What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting stor

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:17:42PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Well, that's a mouthful. And what am I to call the

Re: About dash as sh

bash is still 10x larger than dash: $ ls -l /bin/[bd]ash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1265648 Apr 23 2023 /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 125640 Jan 5 2023 /bin/dash I would not be surprised if that impacts things like initrd and other resource constrained environments. Generally speaking, standa