Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 17 Aug 2023 06:13 +, from amaca...@einval.com (Andrew M.A. Cater): > There are some people who will never ever use a dot-0 release. It's quite > safe to do this in Debian as it will hve had about two years of testing > prior to release. Right. I personally opted to wait for 12.1 before upgr

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread hlyg
Thank  Andrew, Michael and Joe! it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 17 Aug 2023 18:14 +0800, from hlyg2...@outlook.com (hlyg): > it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release I would not characterize Debian x.0 as "beta". -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:14:16 +0800 hlyg wrote: Hello hlyg, >it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release Little could be further from the truth. By the time an X.0 release is issued, much work has already been done; *including* beta releases. That's not to say X.0 releases are

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 06:14:16PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release That is not by design, but by largely unavoidable consequence, and so a Debian stable release is not considered a "beta" ion any respect. There will never be as diverse a user

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 11:32:49AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 06:14:16PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > > it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release > > That is not by design, but by largely unavoidable consequence, and > so a Debian stable release is not c

Re: problem with sway package

2023-08-17 Thread marathon
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 08:56:51PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 16/08/2023 13:19, K S R PHANI BHUSHAN wrote: > > i have tried installing sway package in debian bookworm but it was not > > displaying any thing and also the terminal was getting stuck in the > > login page it self when i tried t

Nvidia 390 driver no longer available for Bookworm; nouveau constantly freezes. Solutions?

2023-08-17 Thread Luiz Romário Santana Rios
Hello, all, (Please cc me when replying, I'm not subscribed to the mailing list) I have (according do lspci) a NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 710] (rev a1) graphics card. The correct proprietary driver for this card seems to be the Nvidia 390 series. When Bookworm came out, I was runn

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 17 Aug 05:15 -0500, hlyg wrote: > Thank  Andrew, Michael and Joe! > > it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release And .2, .3, etc. are even more stable by that metric. Best to wait for 12.7 or later then. In the mean time the rest of us have work to do with the update

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Martin Petersen
happy birthday Debian ! and thanks to all you contributors and nice people in this community. i chose debian as a noob after my first experiments w. suse around '98/'99 and never looked back. best os on the planet and simply my digital home. a cheerful toast to this wonderful creation. the

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 07:32:10PM +0200, Martin Petersen wrote: > happy birthday Debian ! > > and thanks to all you contributors and nice people in this community. > > i chose debian as a noob after my first experiments w. suse around '98/'99 > and never looked back. best os on the planet and s

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread songbird
Luna Jernberg wrote: > Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project ... and congrats on surviving and persisting through all that can happen. :) songbird

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread songbird
wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 11:32:49AM +, Andy Smith wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 06:14:16PM +0800, hlyg wrote: >> > it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release >> >> That is not by design, but by largely unavoidable consequence, and >> so a Debian stable

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Luna Jernberg wrote: Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project I consider Debian to be a major intellectual achievement, Collective, but still a major achievement. My first Linux ran on an IBM PS/2 L40 SX laptop with a monochrome display. I had to recom

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Ash Joubert
Happy Birthday Debian! My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, and switched my desktop to Debian/sid in 2012. I installed my current Debian/sid desktop in April 2017 and it has been rolling

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Javier Barroso
El jue., 17 ago. 2023 22:49, Ash Joubert escribió: > Happy Birthday Debian! > > My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from > 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, > and switched my desktop to Debian/sid in 2012. I installed my curren

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Javier Barroso
El jue., 17 ago. 2023 23:34, Javier Barroso escribió: > > > El jue., 17 ago. 2023 22:49, Ash Joubert escribió: > >> Happy Birthday Debian! >> >> My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from >> 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, >>

Re: Nvidia 390 driver no longer available for Bookworm; nouveau constantly freezes. Solutions?

2023-08-17 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 17.08.2023 20:48, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: Hello, all, (Please cc me when replying, I'm not subscribed to the mailing list) I have (according do lspci) a NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 710] (rev a1) graphics card. The correct proprietary driver for this card seems to be the

uhacking my device

2023-08-17 Thread Tony Zancho
someone installed i=your open source on my devices with out my approval how do i get rid of them or off my devices!!

Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread hlyg
Thank to all that reply! i know little about debian development i have only vague understanding of beta

Re: uhacking my device

2023-08-17 Thread Ceppo
In general, to remove a package you can use sudo apt purge in the terminal. To give you further help we need more details, first of all what you mean by "your open source", and also what you tried so far and any error message you received. Cheers, -- Ceppo